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04-07-2004, 08:06 PM
all of us have experienced failures,so can everyone of us share about it,and how the failures made u grow?i will pose my failure later cause busy now.

wawa
04-07-2004, 09:05 PM
Failures create success and success creates failures. I suggest reading "Whoever Makes the most mistakes wins' by Richard Farson and Ralph Keyes.

wawa
04-07-2004, 09:11 PM
I've had so many failures I've lost count: failing a grade, failing to listen to advise, failing to respond to a friend in need etc etc etc
I can't say that its a pleasant experience to fail, but it definitely makes me a stronger and better person.

iQing
04-07-2004, 09:17 PM
I would like to thank littleprince for your initiative of opening this new thread and Welcome wawa to this SIG. thanx for sharing your experience with us....

I think I have experience too little failure in my exam that now I am very very tense when I am facing my exam....

maybe failure do make us stronger...

The_Observer
04-07-2004, 10:15 PM
Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new.

---- Albert Einstein

iQing
04-07-2004, 10:22 PM
albert einstein failed his study in France due to his language problem.
it seems he was weak in maths....

thomas edision was kicked out of school yet he?s recognised as one of the greatest inventer
(yet many people commit suicide for not doing well (pass, but not very good) in exam)

Robert Kiyosaki failed before but he?s a great financial educationist.

Dr. Mahathir was sacked from UMNO but he has become a PM of malaysia....

08-07-2004, 04:48 PM
i fail to get every scholarships that i applied.......appealed for jpa n fail again.......i'm quite "losing direction" now , however i will be fine,maybe that path is not suitable for me.

iQing
08-07-2004, 05:49 PM
Well, nobody can advise and say for sure what will happen. She has to try to find out herself, to get herself out of the 'misery' of 'secret admiring'?

I am impressed by the 'latest American idol' William Hung who did not know how to dance and sing and yet he went for the American Idol 'competition'. I admired him for his bravery/courage to try it despite his so obvious inadequacies (and subject to people laughing at his 'lousy' singing). He has said something along this line/meaning :

"Whatever you do, try your best. Do not regret of what you have done now and do not have to think too far ahead" something like that.

Thinking back, it is true that I can only give it my best shot in SPM exams, in JPA application etc..Whether I succeed or fail, I have tried and no regrets. No JPA, at least I have tried and appealed, then move on, and try to learn to adopt the attitude of taking up what comes along next.

My parents have been trying to tell/advise us the above, try our best, if make mistakes, learn from it and move on.

Hahaha.....it is always easier said than done.



Littleprince... I am sorry to hear about it. I hope it?s fine for u.
It is a tough competition and we just can?t really blame anyone..
thanx for sharing again.

I think there might have 3rd intake.

Last time in my course there?s one person who?s 3rd intake.

Try to appeal agaim....
Good Luck..

pandaboy
09-07-2004, 12:11 PM
I always think that for every bad things that happened, there must be a blessing behind those things. We should always think positively. For example, u failed to get the JPA scholarship. Maybe if u got the JPA scholarship, u will feel u r smart, the cream of the crop and so on. Then, u start to neglect ur studies and ended up failing all the exams and being kicked out of the scholarship plan.

Whereas, if u didnt get the scholarship, u will work very hard in F6. U scored well in STPM. And later, u managed to get a better scholarship than JPA. Isnt that better? Or maybe u managed to find ur dream girl in F6? Who knows?

Anyway, that's just an example. I think it's good to think this way, that every bad things happened to us are with good purposes. If u take it as merely lying to urself, then u r thinking negatively again. I'm trying very hard to think very positively at the moment. I hope I can succeed one day. Hope you guys and girls can too.

09-07-2004, 11:06 PM
stay cool,u really dont know what will happen in future...like me , after i apply for jpa medicine n failed to get it , i realised i dont like medicine.

burningBUTTERFLIES
09-07-2004, 11:47 PM
littleprince = so there goes to show that things happen for a reason! find your passion, go for it!

you know what, there are many people out there who did not succeed in the field of knowledge. But they succeed in life =). those who kill themselves over failed exams... there's more to life than exams. but of course, the influence surrounding them, like nagging parents etc, affects their decisions.

I guess failure does lead to growth, however, with the condition that they LEARN from it. There are some ppl who has a lot of courage, willing to take risks, but no wisdom. That's when they go down the ravine.

actually failures=experience??

The_Observer
10-07-2004, 02:44 PM
"The only source of knowledge is experience"

---Albert Einstein (1879-1955)

See...even this guy agrees :D

pandaboy
10-07-2004, 03:30 PM
"The only source of knowledge is experience"

---Albert Einstein (1879-1955)

See...even this guy agrees :D

I couldnt agree more too!
So it's time to throw away all the books ya? :lol:

The_Observer
10-07-2004, 07:46 PM
By all means...NO!

Reading is an experience by itself and we are reading the experiences of others so we may learn.

The problem is in not applying what we had learned...because we need to convert virtual 'experience' into practical experience.

Is my logic flawed?

pandaboy
10-07-2004, 08:41 PM
By all means...NO!

Reading is an experience by itself and we are reading the experiences of others so we may learn.

The problem is in not applying what we had learned...because we need to convert virtual 'experience' into practical experience.

Is my logic flawed?

I guess you are right. You presented ur argument very well indeed. I realised that I'm a person who likes reading, but couldnt apply what i learned from the book in real life. :(

iQing
10-07-2004, 08:51 PM
Whenever I want to recommend someone a book. I would like to recommend biography... u know why... ?

it?s because in biography a person?s essence in his/her life is summerised in one book.

by reading a person?s biography means u gain some essential experience of such person, which he/she have to experience it for many years.....

in life we cannot experience everything all by ourselves.
by reading other people?s experience we learn much much faster intstead of experiencing everything by our own...

that?s why it?s important to share our experience...

PeiWen
04-08-2004, 01:27 PM
iQing wrote:
it?s because in biography a person?s essence in his/her life is summerised in one book.

by reading a person?s biography means u gain some essential experience of such person, which he/she have to experience it for many years.....

in life we cannot experience everything all by ourselves.
by reading other people?s experience we learn much much faster intstead of experiencing everything by our own...

Yea, I totally agree with that. By sharing experiences, we can learn from each other and add in to our knowledge. Of course, failures, undoubtedly are more direct as we experienced them ourselves, we have first hand knowledge in it. However, by learning indirectly, such as from others' experiences, it may prevent us from stumbling over the same stones and get yourself hurt. From others' sharing as well, we can interpret and analysis how others handle the same situation differntly, what are the outcomes that result from different actions. Anyway, there's no end for learning process, one just has to keep on learning in order not to be left out. :wink:

brucesharky
25-05-2007, 04:17 PM
Hmm....this thread caught my eye. But I must say, I LOVE THIS SIG. Anyway, no harm posting up something, since I don't do blogging. :wink: Failure=Growth, but only if we learnt from our failures. If not, failure will only turn us into a bitter person.

This is my story:
Had my first major failure when I was 9. Hehehe, failed my PTS and it was a major blow, considering that I was one of the top students in my school. Ok, I was lazy back then but still could score in exams(primary school ma..... ) so I guess I didn't work hard enough. And the few years that followed after that, I just couldn't understand why I failed. I felt really sad, watching my friends jumped class, ahead of me. Oh yes, and my cousin jumped class too, which made me felt like an idiot back then for failing. I dreaded CNY, coz the questions that would definitely been asked by my uncle and aunt were

"so your daughter standard what?" "eh.. my son st_.... Oh he jumped class "

It still happens but I've gotten used to it. :lol: I've hardened in some ways, but not bitter anymore.

Oh yes and of course, i studied hard after that, not wanting history to repeat itself.

And here are the wonderful things that happened in my life that might not happen if I had the chance to go for the express class.

I got an extra year to hone my drawing and painting skills! (Heck I could draw decently enough to take up art in SPM 8)
I got to be the Head Prefect- both primary and secondary school.
I got to hold some important posts in my school clubs- And learnt and grow a lot from those activities held and organized.
I still got to be one of the top students in my school.
I got hooked with Tuesdays With Morrie and I loved it.
I met my Add Maths tutor who introduced me to Rich Dad Poor Dad which made me aware that schools will not make you financially free.( I have awareness for the headstart, the difficult part now is to be bold and apply his theory)
I got into my school's debating team even though I wasn't the most gifted orator. :D
I scored straight A1s in SPM
And best of all..... I got the chance to further my studies in US!!!! My dream country to continue my tertiary education.

Would all these wonderful things happen to me if I passed my PTS back then? Only God knows. But I believe when I failed, God had other plans for me. And it takes time to reveal those.

It's good to fail early in life. The harder you fall early in life, the more time you have to scale the mountain again.

"Man proposes, God disposes". I always believe in giving everything that you got, believe in the power of prayers and have faith in life. You might never know what's at the bend of the road of LIFE. :)

For now, I want to give all I've got and have a shot atthose unis I've been dreaming of;MIT, Berkeley, Stanford,......It's not easy, but nothing in this world is easy. Besides, what do I have to lose?Cheers to LIFE!! :D

vseehua
29-05-2007, 06:48 AM
when i was young, my parents used to cave in to the comparison pressuse with my relatives that they forced me to get 100% in ALL of my exams. Failure to get it will sometimes land me quite a lot of caning at the hand or the butt... That really hurts.

Luckily, during my secondary school years, my mom let loose the knot and let me do what i want. But i must say, the strict training i received during my childhood years did help in ensuring that i have my discipline with me through the years.

Having found my love in physics and the curiosity in knowing how the world worked, reading had always been my passion. From all the books that i've read through the years, i had learn of how people failed and rise again as giant, and how many people failed and never got the chance to get up again.

From my searches, i found people can never really fail in the real sense. Like a child who is learning how to walk, if you fall down, stand back up again and continue walking.

If you are doing something meaningful, there's nothing that's hard...

white2020
06-06-2007, 07:54 PM
haha, maybe u asked me this topic about months ago, i would say..."yea, it is right"

but when u asked me to give example, i would"..er...erm....ar..."..


well, but now, I would say that failures is absolutely growing in life.
well, as a student, the thing that i concern recently is schoalrships thinngy(well, this is not the only thing that students should concern about).

Falling to get the JPA after appealing, I learn Thrusworthy from this experience.

vseehua
06-06-2007, 11:41 PM
haha, maybe u asked me this topic about months ago, i would say..."yea, it is right"

but when u asked me to give example, i would"..er...erm....ar..."..


well, but now, I would say that failures is absolutely growing in life.
well, as a student, the thing that i concern recently is schoalrships thinngy(well, this is not the only thing that students should concern about).

Falling to get the JPA after appealing, I learn Thrusworthy from this experience.not getting JPA isn't a failure...

JPA is only a lottery...

white2020
07-06-2007, 07:21 PM
ya, absolutely right. :D

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09-01-2008, 02:34 AM
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vseehua
09-01-2008, 02:53 AM
Experience is the name everyone gives to the mistakes done.... and learn from...

Gabrielle90
04-05-2008, 08:49 PM
walk out from the mistake in the past and towards our future which would be a tortuous path... avoid repeating our past mistakes and not to be too caught up in te past... is hard to do so but we gotta try...

wilson
25-05-2008, 11:03 PM
We learn from mistakes. It's one of the best reasons why we need to study History in secondary school. What matters most is not about being perfect and never making mistakes. Making mistakes is a process of learning. It's learning from mistakes that counts. Remember, no one is perfect! Make mistakes! And you will learn to be a better man!

abuzar
25-05-2008, 11:11 PM
not getting JPA isn't a failure...

JPA is only a lottery...

totally agree.just apply JPA and forget about it...if u are lucky u get it...if dont....u knowlah...JPA very subjective

yummyummylicious
26-05-2008, 12:34 AM
We learn from mistakes. It's one of the best reasons why we need to study History in secondary school. What matters most is not about being perfect and never making mistakes. Making mistakes is a process of learning. It's learning from mistakes that counts. Remember, no one is perfect! Make mistakes! And you will learn to be a better man!

Ermmm, BEST REASON??? for me , studying history in highschool is one of the most torturing things in that period... I have loads of other better reason than this 'best reason' to make myself learn from mistakes.

syamil_1
26-05-2008, 02:34 AM
failure is when you fail to learn from your mistake. mistake by itself is not a failure, it is merely a bad choice you had made or simply by mistake. of course people grow and become better when they learn from mistakes they had commit. but when you fail to do so, then it is a failure.

you dont have to face failure to grow up, some people learn from others mistake while some will only get it through the rocky path.

We learn from mistakes. It's one of the best reasons why we need to study History in secondary school. What matters most is not about being perfect and never making mistakes. Making mistakes is a process of learning. It's learning from mistakes that counts. Remember, no one is perfect! Make mistakes! And you will learn to be a better man!



study history? gawd now thats a mistake.


make as much mistake as you can, but try not to make stupid ones. one road leads to another, one mistake opens up to a new experience.

wilson
27-05-2008, 09:40 PM
Since studying History is inevitable, I choose to see it as learning our lessons from other people's past mistakes. That really makes me much less bored when I studied History.

Back to topic, failure, I think is definitely part and parcel of growth. I am not talking about physical growth, that we learn in Biology :). Instead, it's about the spiritual, emotional, mental and even intellectual growth.

How many scientists on earth would be successful without first facing failures after failures? In fact, each time we had our failure, we are one step nearer to success. There is a chinese saying that sounds like "bitter first then sweet" from direct translation. This is true indeed.

vseehua
28-05-2008, 03:31 PM
We learn from mistakes. It's one of the best reasons why we need to study History in secondary school. What matters most is not about being perfect and never making mistakes. Making mistakes is a process of learning. It's learning from mistakes that counts. Remember, no one is perfect! Make mistakes! And you will learn to be a better man!

Ermmm, BEST REASON??? for me , studying history in highschool is one of the most torturing things in that period... I have loads of other better reason than this 'best reason' to make myself learn from mistakes.

History was one of the subjects that I have had the most fun studying. It's facinating that humans can come such a long way to our state from the prehistoric ages when we just know how to use clubs to hunt and how to use stones to make fire.

Perhaps you can try go out of the syllabus and read about the other great civilizations in the world. When you've learnt enough to connect them, you will find them facinating indeed.

Remember: Fools never learn, smart people learn from their own mistakes, wise people learn from others' mistakes...

wilson
28-05-2008, 06:14 PM
History was one of the subjects that I have had the most fun studying. It's facinating that humans can come such a long way to our state from the prehistoric ages when we just know how to use clubs to hunt and how to use stones to make fire.

Perhaps you can try go out of the syllabus and read about the other great civilizations in the world. When you've learnt enough to connect them, you will find them facinating indeed.

Remember: Fools never learn, smart people learn from their own mistakes, wise people learn from others' mistakes...


Definitely agree with you, especially the last sentence of your post. It doesn't matter to make mistakes. At times, a big mistakes might turn the whole thing or project into failure. Since we have come to a conclusion that making mistakes doesn't matter, then why are we still stubborn with our past failures? When we face failures, what we should do is to get over the bad feelings and move on in life. In fact, failure strikes us when we quit.

unrealsilver
16-08-2008, 01:46 AM
Failure is inevitable..
All of us might fail in some way or another..
We might fail people some way or another.

Just get up,improve yourself, move on wih life...

Life doesn't wait..no use burying youself in failures.

jianyi_crystal
06-04-2009, 11:32 PM
i agree to the statement, few year before, my best friend suddenly don want to talk to me anymore, then only i realize that i am to dependence to someone, i never concern what my friend think about, and somehow make her feel unbreathable, and she is no more want to be my friend. i regard everyday, then only i feel that i should be more independence and care about others people feeling. now i become more mature in thinking, we should learning from failure.

luminodreamer89
07-04-2009, 12:06 AM
By falling hard, u will learn to face the reality of life with humility.
Remember, things happen for a reason. U wont realise that actually every failure has a lesson behind, until u look back a few months/years later.
Talking about meeting new acquaintances, erm, had i secured JPA scholarships back then, I wont be able to know a friend.

P/S: Fall hard, rise slow, stand with dignity. Life is wonderful =)