Electrical and Electronic Engineering

[digimushu]

This is where E and E discussions go on..

[kevinkhoo1986]

Hmm..... this course will be my second choice after architecture course. Is there any relation between them? I hope that i am choosing the correct path. :wink:

[digimushu]

E&E and architecture? I dont think so, it may have some similiairities with civil engineering or interior design. As far as chosing the right course is concerned, you will never know. all u need to know is that you are happy studying what you like. do you best in everything and you will have no regrets in life. Welcome to the Engineering SIG!

[bachok83]

oo common guys.. EE rox.. (others, pop ye ye) hahaha

[francislee]

yeah... definitely agree with digimushu..
do your best in whatever field of interest.
If you like the field, you will never have to 'work' for the rest of your life.
BTW, i'm a graduate EE engineer attached to a factory....

[bskueh]

Come on, is that it?? is there anymore EE graduate?? :D
quick introduction for myself, I'm EE graduate student in Univ. of Leeds, well, still keeping my effort to hunt an ideal job for myself.
:(

kevinkhoo1986> you don't have to worry about either to become an EE engineer or architect, for me they both have similiarities, their ideas always start with technical, calculations, design, and planning.

Enjoy for all EE malaysian student.

[wawa]

Anyone specializing in microelectronics in EE? Could you guys give some advice pls..I was thinking of doing something in relation to nanotechnology...but I'm not too clear about what they actually do and what are the interesting areas, I have professors offering to take me in for areas such as CMOS, lithography, spintronics, nanofabrication and I don't know what to choose..

[digimushu]

wawa,

are you interested in the electronic materials part of it, the design part ot if(VLSI, ULSI) the the fabrication process?

electronic materials means u look at the composition of the semiconductors and the physics part of it.

VLSI and ULSI means all you will be doing is making parts of chips for the rest of your life.

if u are interested in the fabrication process, then you migh want to go into mems

[wawa]

are you interested in the electronic materials part of it, the design part ot if(VLSI, ULSI) the the fabrication process?

electronic materials means u look at the composition of the semiconductors and the physics part of it.

VLSI and ULSI means all you will be doing is making parts of chips for the rest of your life.


actually I don't know, so I'm considering all areas, but I'm very physics inclined. from what i gather from your post, electronics is about the properties and new ways to doing it, while VLSI/ULSI( i thought that was programming?) is about the ways you can assemble them?

[digimushu]

...while VLSI/ULSI( i thought that was programming?) is about the ways you can assemble them?


yep it is...you learn to put the MOSFETS in series or parallel to make NAND gate, AND gates and so forth.

[bskueh]

I was thinking of doing something in relation to nanotechnology.....

Hi WAWA,

I hope this link will answer your questions,
http://www.nanotech.leeds.ac.uk/eprospects.html

For your information, if you plan to further your study in UK for nanotech engineering, University of Leeds and Sheffield are the only univ. have these facilities.

Nanotech and microelectronics are different field, microelectrical is basically about diodes, i.e. calculation/design the transportation between pn junction :D

Sorry I can't give you more info on it, since I'm major in power, control, and embedded system, which I found more interesting.

[profmich]

Come on, is that it?? is there anymore EE graduate?? :D
quick introduction for myself, I'm EE graduate student in Univ. of Leeds, well, still keeping my effort to hunt an ideal job for myself.
:(

k


1st year EE student reporting. Just completed my first semester in the Uni of Melbourne. Had my last paper a few hours ago :D and here i am, recomming, lol.

Would be most grateful if fellow EE engineers could share their experience... I am planning to intern during my summer holidays. Do companies accept mere first years for internship? specifically in Australia or Malaysia? And what do interns normally do?

Thanks in advance. :)

[yuckfou]

CMOS, lithography, spintronics, nanofabrication




Man, I guess you're more talking about solid state and semiconductor physics. Complex yet interesting. Spintronics is cool stuff. I think people in MIT managed to produced some digital codes using the spin of the electrons. Unfortunately, the codes was not able to be reproduced because the electrons disappeared.

I've fabricated a copper nanowire to try to simulate the effect of BMR (Ballistic Magnetoresistance) and the GMR (Giant Magnetoresistance). Very complex stuff. These effects are used in the our harddisk head reader.

CMOS stuff is cool. Using CMOS to create circuits are so much easier compared to creating a CMOS transistor itself. Well, that's my point of view. I did my thesis in RFIC transceiver using CMOS. But if you're into solid state physics, you don't have to do any circuit design. You'll actually have to create the transistors.

CMOS transistors are getting smaller and smaller. A couple of years ago, the 90 nm process technology came out in Pentium 4. Now, people are already into 30 nm technology. Low voltage and small area. I sometimes wonder how a analog circuit designer managed to design a circuit with very low supply voltage. With 30 nm process technology, Vdd = 0.3 V???!! I guess we can throw Moore's law out the window.

People have successfully constructed nanocarbon transistors. I guess the ultimate problem right is how to fabricate 100 million of these tubes at low cost and achieve better performance compared to CMOS.

[wawa]

People have successfully constructed nanocarbon transistors. I guess the ultimate problem right is how to fabricate 100 million of these tubes at low cost and achieve better performance compared to CMOS.

Whoever can fabricate CNT's reliably deserves a Nobel Prize, IMHO, :lol:

I've fabricated a copper nanowire to try to simulate the effect of BMR (Ballistic Magnetoresistance) and the GMR (Giant Magnetoresistance). Very complex stuff. These effects are used in the our harddisk head reader.


How did you find your experience fabricating it? I'm still very elementary, learning to fabricate nanoparticles nia...

Nanotech and microelectronics are different field, microelectrical is basically about diodes, i.e. calculation/design the transportation between pn junction


bskueh, I guess it boils down to how the uni differentiates it? In my uni, nanotech, is under microe, which is under EE. :lol:

[yuckfou]

Fabricating nanowire for research purposes is very elementary. All you have to understand is basic electrolysis and have a really good electron microscope. I believe the ultimate problem is measuring the magnetic field with a Gauss meter across and the nanowire. One also have to understand properties elements a such as copper and nickel. There are papers out there that talks about GMR and BMR. BMR is relatively new. It's been around for less than 10 years and I believe it's still in the research stage. GMR is already used in harddisk drives head. If one can monopolize BMR, probably one spindle in the harddisk can store 1 Terabyte. Don't quote me on that. I think one standard harddisk has 5 spindles in it.

[waikiki]

may i know what is this course about.Diploma kejuruteraan elektronik(perubatan).Is this a good course?What are my chances of getting a job or going to uni for degree?I am offered this course by politeknik?is politeknik good or should i stay for form 6?I dont know if i post this in the right thread but if not sorry.Please help me out .Thanks.

[Neutral_pH]

yo I hope you all can help me please....currently I am a student taking preparation studies to France and once there I am thinking of taking E&E...the problem is my marks for electricity has been uninspiring, no failures but just plain...if you what i mean, average.
Just like the electrical test i just took just now, I think I screwed up one whole question because i dunno where to include the internal resistance of a coil inside or outside the complex notation.
I am doing just average for electricity...I want to struggle more do you think it's possible for me to take up E&E? I know it's hard but I find it interesting...

[wawa]

if you like it, why not? Struggle for something you love...
however, bear in mind that EE...is mainly Maxwell's Equations anyways.

[chiunlin]

if you like it, why not? Struggle for something you love...
however, bear in mind that EE...is mainly Maxwell's Equations anyways.
Er, not quite, I once spoke to my EE undergrad advising professor and he told me I can view EE as consisting of 3 main branches(all are related but distinct from one another): Electronics(semiconductors, diodes, capacitors, etc.), signal processing(mp3, jpeg, compressing information), and computer architecture(chips, logic gates). Maxwell equations? Yeah, maybe for electronics, but I doubt you'll see it more than Ohm's Law(which isn't a law actually, but an approximation).

Well, of course you could further divide them into something more specific or divide the whole disciplines in some other ways, but all I'm saying here is that EE is more than what most of us think it is. And don't ever think that if you study EE, you're stuck to be an engineer, my signal processing professor told the class that most of her PhD colleagues were hired to analyze the market and stock exchange.

[Mew2]

I am interested in EE but when i browse thro' the universities course listing, i find that they not only offer Electronic & Electrical Engineering. They also separate the course like Electronic Engineering and Electrical Engineering. I already quite understand about Electronic but i'm still blur about Electrical. What is Electrical mostly about? Should i choose 1 of them o both of them? Which 1 is better? How about the those course offerred with majors? Are they better than those without majors?

[confused-freaker]

hi i'm interested in EnE eng....but i dont know where i should go to take this degree course...there are so many institutions around here.... so what do u guys think? (please exclude monash nottingham...those are too expensive :( )

[digimushu]

Actually, Electrical Engineering is the course with the wider scope. Electronic Engineering is a subset of electrical engineering. Unless you work specifically in the area of Electromagnetics or RF engineering, you wont see Maxwell's equations often.

So, Electrical engineering is a LARGE area. You can go into various areas, which includes:

1-Embedded systems design - usually requires you to do a lot of coding in C and assembly in addition to putting together working embedded systems. Lots of programming.

2-Electronics - mostly working in micro/nano stuff, may need you to know significant amount of physics and material science.

3-Controls - mostly dealing with the control of electrical/mechanical systems. mostly kirkoff's laws, but could need Newton's and hell lot of matrix theory and differential equations.

4-Power systems - dealing with a lot of the high power stuff we see everyday. can be combined with electronics. Mostly working with Kirkoff's and ohm's laws.

5-Electromagnetics -guys who design your antenna/dish/microwave. needs a lot of Vector calculus.

6-Signal processing - people who look at measured and created signals and learn how to analyze and process the signals for engineering use. needs a LOT of math.

in addition to these, there are a lot more areas, such as, communications/ULSI design but those are the main subgroups. Good luck in choosing and have fun!

[navaisha]

...while VLSI/ULSI( i thought that was programming?) is about the ways you can assemble them?


yep it is...you learn to put the MOSFETS in series or parallel to make NAND gate, AND gates and so forth.

yap.....learning VLSI/ULSI more advance.before that we learned microelectronics.the basic one be4 u learn VLSI.....actually i love Microelectronics....my favorite subject.next sem,i'm going to take VLSI subject.huhuhu...

[Jen_Twilightdream]

I was thinking of doing something in relation to nanotechnology.....

Hi WAWA,

I hope this link will answer your questions,
http://www.nanotech.leeds.ac.uk/eprospects.html

For your information, if you plan to further your study in UK for nanotech engineering, University of Leeds and Sheffield are the only univ. have these facilities.

Nanotech and microelectronics are different field, microelectrical is basically about diodes, i.e. calculation/design the transportation between pn junction :D

Sorry I can't give you more info on it, since I'm major in power, control, and embedded system, which I found more interesting.

that is wht petronas is offering for e&e applicants .. what do you study actually? i'm a SPM leaver .. waiting 4 scholarship results .. JPA and PETRONAS .. went 4 the educamp in petronas .. they didnt give us career talks on mech, chem and e&e .. but they were more to talking about civil, geo , PE and ICT ( weirdly so)

[Chrisntine]

i heard EnE is hard to study. is that true? my frez who is a EnE student advice me not to take EnE. and he is goin to switch to architecture. he told me every semester, we have to add 1 more subject. actually wat is EnE. i do not have a clear view of it. i interested in math and add math. for physic, just hav a little interest. EnE is one of my 'blur' choice as i duno wat course that are related most to math except actuarial science. can some1 tell me wat other course that are related to math the most?

[Olataro]

I noticed that not many ppl thank others for useful info...............sucha waste. X()X

[lindley]

do you have to be good in certain subs to do well in the EE field?
any areas?

[Caprio]

do you have to be good in certain subs to do well in the EE field?
any areas?

Generally, you have to have a strong foundation in physics and maths to excel in engineering. EE is no exception. However, maths is emphasized a lot in the EE field compare to other engineering.

[lindley]

oh shoot. i think im not suited for E and E then lol.

[Caprio]

oh shoot. i think im not suited for E and E then lol.

It is advisable to do a thorough research before choosing your course of study.

[GreeN_aPPLe]

hi..im new here. I was nvr interested in e&e b4, nor any other subjects but recently i got a UPU offer at UTM for electronic engg. I don noe wat izit all about. Can somebody tell me? Is it a very hard course? Do i hv 2 b very good in add. maths? Im ok in physics and maths, but my add. maths kinda sux..hoW??? Should i go 4 tis course?

[Neutral_pH]

YO

Anyone here doing E&E in France? Most of the posts that I read deal mostly with those coming from english speaking countries. Parlez un peu francais les gars! Les francaises sont jolies!!

You guys ever heard something called Electrotechnics (those speaking french ELECTROTECHNIQUE) I was wondering whether there's a market for people like back home. It's something to do electrical grids, power electronics, sync motors, stuff like that.

Feel free to put in your advice

[kirin]

hi..im new here. I was nvr interested in e&e b4, nor any other subjects but recently i got a UPU offer at UTM for electronic engg. I don noe wat izit all about. Can somebody tell me? Is it a very hard course? Do i hv 2 b very good in add. maths? Im ok in physics and maths, but my add. maths kinda sux..hoW??? Should i go 4 tis course?

hi..im taking electric pwer eng.i think it quite same or ur corse is harder.huhu.
ur prob is about add. math rite? actly study at IPT quite different with school.at ipt the results are not depending on the final exam only.it has carrymark or coursework system.then,the syllabus also by sem not year.

dunt worry.:)

[sugan]

is solar cell engineering under e&e engineering?
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