Tomato Is Consider As Fruits ? Vegetables?

[bubblesgirl]

hi guys,this topic is a bit different frm those b4,coz it doesn`t relate to the nation,culture,politics..n in fact it is quite a childish question too..anyway,i`d like to hear urs opinion..(",)

2 month ago i had my lunch wif my seniors,n a Japanese friend..then dunno y,we talked something about tomato..then the japanese said the tomato is considered as fruits,while my seniors said it is a vegetables..i felt it was an interesting n funny argument..so,wat do u think??

[iQing]

in linguistic point of view tomato is a vegetable

do you mind telling us your education level...?
we were thinking of setting some topics for different level of discussion

I agree that a lot of our discussion topics are "high level" that might scare away some of the students... eg secondary school students....

What do u think achors?

[__earth]

it's a veggie.

[Schye]

in linguistic point of view tomato is a vegetable


I am not sure if it is different form the linguistic point of view, but I have found this.

Tomato

A widely cultivated South American plant (Lycopersicon esculentum) having edible, fleshy, usually red fruit.
The fruit of this plant.

Fruit
The ripened ovary or ovaries of a seed-bearing plant, together with accessory parts, containing the seeds and occurring in a wide variety of forms.
An edible, usually sweet and fleshy form of such a structure.
A part or an amount of such a plant product, served as food: fruit for dessert.

Vegetable
A plant cultivated for an edible part, such as the root of the beet, the leaf of spinach, or the flower buds of broccoli or cauliflower.
The edible part of such a plant.

Well, i am not sure about it myself as I thought it was vegetables too. But it seems that it is types of fruit.

Never jump into a conclusion before thinking and i dont think we should calssified any topic as high level or low :wink: as we do welcome any post and are ready to help all the time.We are here to help each other and not to show how high level we are.

[bubblesgirl]

IQing said
[do you mind telling us your education level...?]

Ok,i don mind..I am a JPA student who is studying in Japan now,how about u??Is that any prob related to my education level?????????

[Tomato is considered as fruits?or Vegetables?]Although this is a simple question,but wat i would like to point out is,the difference thought between Malaysian and citizens of the other country.

Malaysia is heading towards to build an international community.Hence,there are many of us,who go studying abroad..or were sent by JPA to difference countries over the world, But,despite of studying,do we really understood the main purpose y we were sent?and how can us achieve the mission of building an international society?Just get know to the culture of the country??If so,it is not enough.I think we should understand their thought,and apply the good value of theirs in our country.For example,time is highly evaluated in Japanese society..but how about us,the Malaysian??Especially the Chinese.if someone made an appointment on 7 o clock,normally he/she would appear after 1 or 2 hours..I thought this bad habit would be changed if someone is in the society of punctuality,but in fact i was wrong.Many of us still can`t changed this habit ,n always be late even though he/she made an appointment with the Japanese.Dont u feel this is a ugly image as a malaysian??

So,actually i would like those of you who r staying in overseas,share yours experience,or your discovery,about thought that different with malaysian,ok?Let`s us get know to nation of the globe,ok?thx..

n Mr IQing,don always pretend yourself as someone who is very "high-level",n should learn how to respect plp too..plz..

[littlebigone]

hahahaha....that was a really good post.

But firstly, bubbles, IQing is not a miss.

Secondly, I agree with you point about getting to know and acquire the good points of other people's culture.

Thirdly, I think a tomato is a fruit.

Fourthly, Hope to see more posts from you.

peace out

[Schye]

But firstly, bubbles, IQing is not a miss.


:lol: hahah....
sorry but i just cant stand it....lol

[royston]

IQing said
[do you mind telling us your education level...?]

Ok,i don mind..I am a JPA student who is studying in Japan now,how about u??Is that any prob related to my education level?????????

n Mr IQing,don always pretend yourself as someone who is very "high-level",n should learn how to respect plp too..plz..

Hi Miss bubblesgirl,

First of all, please accept our apology. We apologize do not mean that we treat you differently. I can understand that iQing's point here.

Well, Recom is still growing now and we are planning to include more variety of members from different level. The level does not mean that "high" or "low"... in fact, we are trying to aim for students from High schools till Uni level. All members in Recom are treating each other like family members, I strongly believe no such "level discrimination" kinda stuff exist... :?

Anyway, hopefully you will not take things personally (I don't mean you are), try to stay with Recom as close as possible and hopefully we will be able to learn from each other so that Recom can grow up in shortest time.

In fact, I am quite enjoy reading your reply because the way you speak is kinda straight and directly point out whatever you don't like... :lol: We need you to help us to bring up Recom.

Thank you very much,
~ roy ~

[chenchow]

Hi bubblesgirl,

I hope you will not be affected by iQing's question?

While I can't read his mind, I think he asked that question in good nature. As ryoston said, we are in the process of bringing Recom to high school students and that's one of the reason where we try to accommodate.

Don't feel offended ok? If you are offended, on behalf of Recom, I would like to apologize and I hope that you would continue to stay active in Recom!!!

I am impressed by what bubblesgirl wrote about the reason JPA students sent to overseas. It is very true and also I would like to add that another reason would be for the Multinational corporations that are investing in Malaysia. For instance, those Japanese MNC would prefer to hire someone who has studied in Japan and Malaysia, knows the culture of Japan and Malaysia inside out, and this is where bubblesgirl, schye and many others will play the important role...

[royston]

Yes... chenchow you brought up a good idea here... !!

I guess we can expand Recom network to Japan Uni too... hopefully both Bubblesgirl and SengChye can help on this.

By the way, I have done another things without permission from Recom. I have written mails to the URL below to ask for some communication and idea sharing between each other, they are:

Malaysia Students' Community
http://www.mystudents.cjb.net/

Malaysia Students Network
http://www.malaysianstudents.net/index.php

I am sorry if I have done something without informing anchors of Recom.

Bubblesgirl, as you can see, we are on the way promoting our sites to the rest and we really need your help to contribute and bring up Recom.

Thanks,
~ roy ~

[littlebigone]

i thought we were talking about tomatoes?

[wwhong]

yup i agree with bubblegirl. m'sian just don't respect others' time at all especially chinese. it's an unfair treatment to those who are puncture.
chenchow, put this in one of your priority ie how to make m'sian puncture and respect others' time.

eh...i think tomato is fruit also.

ganbatte kudasai ne bubblegirl.

[masterof_none]

hey Bubblegirls, welcome to ReCom. Hope you enjoy learning at ReCOm, as much as we do.

a little digression from the topic :
in the US, people usually use the pronunciation of 'tomato' to distinguish between slangs. Often time, ppl said that : "you said To-me-to or To-ma-to"
Since there are lots of slangs here in the states, To-maa-to/To-mee-to usually will be brought up on the table. By the way, most of the slang that we hear from american movies is Californians (especially , things like ,
"dude", that's hardcore San Diego) . San Diego is located south of LA, and quite near to Mexican's border, Tijuana.

OK, whether Tomato is a fruit or not,
this is my thought:
I used to think that it was a fruit, until I read Schye's post. He checked the dictionary and so do I. I checked dictionary.com and got this:

to?ma?to (t?-m??t?, -m??-)?Pronunciation Key
n. pl. to?ma?toes

1.
a. A widely cultivated South American plant (Lycopersicon esculentum) having edible, fleshy, usually red fruit.
b. The fruit of this plant.

It is a FRUIT!. :o


I think.

[CrAzyCow]

I used to think tomatoes are veges... hmm.. looks like it was a fruit after all. :) Well, i don't care whether it is a fruit or a vege.. as long as it can be eaten.. :D yum

I read the post by iQing and personally i think he should word his post more carefully. If i am Bubblegirl, i would misunderstood his meaning as well.

[chenchow]

thanks bubblegirls and wwhong for pointing out the punctuality and culture. We have a thread named "Multicultural world" which is dedicated for that function. So, make full use of it!

[qedx]

I define fruits as the ripened ovary or ovaries of a seed-bearing plant, together with accessory parts, containing the seeds and occurring in a wide variety of forms, that I can eat raw. Since I don't eat tomatoes raw, tomatoes are veggies.

[Liney]

I put tomatoes in my salad....and I eat them raw sometimes. Good for ur complexion....lembut dan licin....so, to me tomato is in vagetable category.

[qedx]

on a related note, technically strawberries are not fruit

[iQing]

Sorry if I have create a "havoc" here and sorry if there's a misunderstanding

I agree with you guys on certain point on the tomato stuff

I guess I really have to reform my writing style as i think the way I write my post the are ambiguity and it might cause some misunderstanding even it's for the good of ReCom...

thank you chen chow for defending my point

what I'm trying to say is that there are certain topics that are not the interest of certain members eg the secondary school students and we are trying to find ways to suit this group of members. "high" and "low" are just figurative and I'm just interested to know which education level you are.

I think figurative words really cause a lo9t of misunderstanding and I appologise for that

I believe that my posting has provoke some of you guys and you may not like it very much. Maybe that's why there are accusation all over.

I think there is no need for us to be emotional. esp anger in forum. it's not a good practice as anger is not a good value to be possessed.

I think we should view the posting objectively.

I always check and thinking before I post my opinion and I have been assertive but if some of the members are still being provoked due to the sensitiveness of the issue, then it's up to them... just like the westerners blast and condemm Dr M for his speech...

[iQing]

Threre are too many ambiguity in our daily life and things can be twisted easily and black can be said as white...

tomato can be said as vege

egg might be a cell etc.

and misunderstanding can occur

[silverblue]

Tomatoes

Although, the tomato is technically a fruit, it is considered by most to be a vegetable because of the way it is used in meals and snacks. The tomato is native to South America and was brought over to Europe by Spanish explorers in the 16th Century. Before the 19th century, the tomato was thought to be poisonous and to have special powers. Its nickname was "the devil?s apple" and, because of this belief, was only used as decoration. It was not until about a century later that Europeans and North Americans dared to eat raw or lightly cooked tomatoes. Today, many cultures enjoy tomatoes as part of their meals. Tomatoes combine well with many foods such as: pastas, meat and fish dishes as well as with other vegetables.

Tomatoes are high in vitamin A and vitamin C and contain a plant chemical called lycopene. Lycopene gives tomatoes, watermelons and pink grapefruits their red colour. Lycopene is an antioxidant that can protect the body?s cells from damage, which can help reduce your risk of heart disease and cancer. Cooked and processed tomato products, like tomato sauce or tomato paste, contain even higher amounts of lycopene.

Invite tomatoes by....
Cutting slices or chunks of tomatoes into salads
Piling tomatoes onto sandwiches, in pitas and in wraps
Choosing tomatoes as a snack with a low fat yogourt dip
Using tomatoes to make pasta sauce from scratch
Adding sliced tomatoes to grilled cheese sandwiches or tuna melts
Using tomatoes in meat, fish and chicken recipes
Topping green salads, rice dishes and pasta salads with cherry or grape tomatoes
Simply cutting up fresh, ripe tomatoes and eating them as a snack or side dish.

http://www.city.toronto.on.ca/health/vf/vf_tomatoes_and_cucumbers.htm

[iQing]

wow... i never know that we can type words in various colour until now

thanx for the information silverblue.. it's interesting..

perhaps we should have a forum on how to cook tomato...
or better still...

a forum on cooking...

I wonder why some of the forum discussions have been locked up... it's a bit eerie here...

and the sticky post... what's that?

[chenchow]

I would suggest changing this thread to Cooking? How do everyone think about it?

Some forums are locked, because it has not been discussed for a long time, but if you think that certain forums which are locked and should not be locked, just IM either masterofnone, bachok,littlebigone or me, kay?

[silverblue]

Change this forum to cooking?! Err... I don't think that is in line with our vision here at REcom lar... we don't want to be giving the wrong idea that we are training members to be housewifes or househusbands, do we? :lol: hahaha, just kidding btw! :P

No, but seriously... I think a Cooking would be too much lar... if u wanna learn cooking go buy recipe book or search online lar.. what's there to discuss? Share recipes? hehehe it just weirds me out..

Neway, I think it's a good idea to lock some of the forums which are already obselete and irrelevant to our discussion... so I don't think it's eerie hahaha... we've decided that forums that have been inactive (no posts at all) for one month or so should be locked up... so if you wanna keep that topic alive, post!

[Thirdshifter]

Buah tomato

[bubblesgirl]

hello..bubblesgirl here..i would like to say thank you for yours precious post ..=)...quite enjoy myself in reading the different view of you all..like tomato can use to cook...etc.....but anyway,just like what Crazycow said,

Well, i don't care whether it is a fruit or a vege. .aslong as it can be eaten.. yum

right..no matter tomato is a fruits or vegetables,as long as it can be eaten,n delicious..yum yum..hehehe..So,life is just like the tomato..if we take it easy in overcoming any difficulty in our life,don care so much and be satisfied to what we have now,life can be lived with easily,and happily,i think(@<hidden>@<hidden>)

mm..to Mr IQing n everyone here,dont misunderstand of my previous post..i am not offended of any words here(",)..so i hope there would be no more accusation ,ok?(^_^/)..Sorry Mr IQing..

Btw,i think we should end up the discussion about tomato(",)..But anyway,4 yours information,tomato is a fruit.. Why??check it out yourselves,so that you can learn something else.. :wink:

Hah Bubbles, nice to know that you are OK with the previous post from iQing... haha...!! Or else we will hammer him ... :P just kiddin ...

~ roy ~

[iQing]

yeah it's ok bubblegurl... just a common logic flaw..

I hope that left brain dominates in discussion (not anger) and the heart should not always topply the mind ok ? :)

Cooking...
as uni students I believe that it would be a great advantage if we know how to cook... I believe that you will agree with me right?

so I think that it wont cause harm if ReCom provide some weblink to some cooking website... or ReCom can provide some GUI articles on cooking... I think such articles make ReCom a more cheerful place...

it's just like..
when you enter ReCom..
and you see a lot of nice, simple articles...
where these articles teach you new, yet interesting skills like cooking, beauty tips, simple body building tips (something like that...) etc
would you feel delighted, happy and excited...?

I think these little things that facinates our members will attracted them to come to ReCom often... don't you think so..

again.. it is just my personal opinion.. :D

[littlebigone]

Alrite, I think I;m going to lock this forum now.

We've decided that the tomato is a fruit techinically.

However, some people treat it as a vegetable because of the way they treat it in their daily lives.

Nevertheless, a tomato is a tomato and it's best function is not as a fruit or a vege, but as something edible :)

We also delved into a little cultural discussion but that has been continued in another thread. So we'll not talk about it here

So if everyone agrees this forum is closed. Only post if you have objections. DO NOT post if you agree.

[iQing]

Why do you close the forum so fast.?

it's not an old topic and i think we should give other people chance to discuss more about it.

It's eerie that this forum is getting awkward.

and I disagree that we should restrict a person's view
and if a member agree with something maybe he/she might come out with something constrcutive.

littlebigone, can you please clarify to us what are you doing to the forum...
I believe that we have the rights to know

[littlebigone]

This forum has met it's needs of discussing what a tomato is. I want to close this forum so that discussions are more organized. If we want to discuss other things, then we should post them in the correct places.

As i see it, the forum topic is getting old and people are starting to talk about cooking and culture, etc

[__earth]

From wikipedia


In botany, a fruit is the ripened ovary, together with its seeds, of a flowering plant. In cuisine, when discussing fruit as food, the term usually refers to just those plant fruits that are sweet and fleshy, examples of which would be plum, apple, and orange. However, a great many common vegetables, as well as nuts and grains, are the fruit of the plants they come from. Fruits that might not be considered such in a culinary context include gourds (e.g. squash and pumpkin), maize, tomatoes, and green peppers. These are fruits to a botanist, but are generally treated as vegetables in cooking. Some spices, such as allspice and nutmeg, are fruits. Rarely, culinary "fruits" are not fruits in the botanical sense, such as rhubarb in which only the sweet leaf petiole is edible.

so, in botanical sense, it's fruit. in kitchen sense, it's veggie. :)

[royston]

I guess it is pretty simple. Fruit is produced by the flowering plant by its flower. Anyone can give me an example of a veggie which is produced by flower? I don't mean the flower itself but fruit is "transformed" by flowers, I am not sure I used the correct word or not :P

~ roy ~

[iQing]

A monkey wont eat tomato, instead it prefer to eat fruits
so tomato is not a fruit.

I'm just seeing things from a child's perpective 8)