Choosing BIO @ PHYSICS in F6??????????

[PINKPIGGY]

Can someone help me on choosing subjects in F6? 8O Cos i'm lost???!!!! Wat is al about in PHY & BIO?? My SPM results show nothing cos i get 2A is both subjects.. i just want 2 know more about these 2 subjects. :wink: thanks a lot 4 yr replies................. :oops:

[HappyCat]

as i noe, u need 2 use ur brain 2 think more in PHY on calculation things n its theory not too long n confusing...while BIO is more about memorize. my BIO teacher had said tat BIO is harder than KM and FZ cause we hv 2 really understand wat it is talking about, otherwise, we wil find very hard 2 study the next chapter...

it depends on u...if u like calculation thing, u can choose PHY.
if u r not strong in tat but good in memorising, then choose BIO.

hope its help... 8)

corret me if i'm wrong... :roll:

[leng_cyl]

to choose either bio or physics, it really depends on yourself, think deeply, which field u prefers? Or what you wanna be in the future?

I myself is still blur about what I wanna be in the future, however, between bio and physics, I know that I prefer biology so I decided to take biology ^^
However, my memory not good enough...haha... I'll try harder to learn biology as I like biology (although I scared of the process of some experiments which need sacrifications of animals >.< )
Besides, in spm, I've got A1 for physics but A2 only for my bio.. lol

[Gadowain]

Can someone help me on choosing subjects in F6? 8O Cos i'm lost???!!!! Wat is al about in PHY & BIO?? My SPM results show nothing cos i get 2A is both subjects.. i just want 2 know more about these 2 subjects. :wink: thanks a lot 4 yr replies................. :oops:


Well,i think that it all depends on u . try to think about this..when u were in form 5, which subjects u like most??i mean between physics and bio??and also...which subjects u are more confident in??Physics or Bio?Well, as far as i know...i think that Physics is a subject that u need to understand BEFORE u do its calculation...and also,...as u go along with physics...u are inevitable from memorising some quite long formulaes..even u do understand, u have to memorize..but like i said, when u understand its concept, it will help u memorize better...well...the bottomline is, memorize with understanding....ok??and also...i suggest that u take a brief look at the Physics upper 6 and lower 6 reference book,( i recommend Pelangi or Fajar Bakti) and try to find out urself whether or not u are interested or will ne interested in it??ok??well, that's all....Thanks and good luck in ur form 6.... :D

[kevinkhoo1986]

as i noe, u need 2 use ur brain 2 think more in PHY on calculation things n its theory not too long n confusing...while BIO is more about memorize. my BIO teacher had said tat BIO is harder than KM and FZ cause we hv 2 really understand wat it is talking about, otherwise, we wil find very hard 2 study the next chapter...

it depends on u...if u like calculation thing, u can choose PHY.
if u r not strong in tat but good in memorising, then choose BIO.

hope its help... 8)

corret me if i'm wrong... :roll:

Lol..... inversely, my physics teacher told us that Physics is tougher than biology because u have so many formulaes to memorise. Apart from this, memorising is not sufficient enough to excel in physics, u really required understandings in order to score in this subject. Happycat is correct in the sense that physics required a lot of calculations and u have to be really good in math. Especially differentiation and so on. But based on my past experience, i think biology is more about memorising rather than understandings.

But anyway the most important thing is to know what you want to be in the future. Then look at your own ability to see whether u can make it or not. Dont try to say u want to become a doctor if you dont even get any a in spm. The chances are still there but do you think it is possible? Anyway, physics or biology class have it's own advantages and disadvantages.

Physics students are generally have more variety of courses to choose when applying for local u. Apart from this, you dont have to obtain a very excellent( i mean 4.00 in stpm) result to get into the course you want. But of course, once you graduated, you are not going to earn as high as the doctor, dentist and so on.

Most of the biology students are generally aiming for critical course such as medicine, pharmacy, dentistry and so on. But do bear in mind, eventhough u got 4.0 in stpm, you are not guaranted to get these critical course due to stiff competition among the scorer. And at the end u might end up being offered courses like zoology and so on. (My friend's sister initially aiming for medicine course, but she got 1a and 3b in stpm which is nearly impossible to get medicine course. She is going to russia soon to pursue medicine. What a waste of time and money) But if you are succeeded, no doubt you are going to have a very bright future and earns lot's of $$$. That's why i think money is another factor why so many students opt for biology class :wink:

[kevinkhoo1986]

to choose either bio or physics, it really depends on yourself, think deeply, which field u prefers? Or what you wanna be in the future?

I myself is still blur about what I wanna be in the future, however, between bio and physics, I know that I prefer biology so I decided to take biology ^^
However, my memory not good enough...haha... I'll try harder to learn biology as I like biology (although I scared of the process of some experiments which need sacrifications of animals >.< )
Besides, in spm, I've got A1 for physics but A2 only for my bio.. lol

But generally girl are opting for biology class. My class which is a physics class just have 7 princess out of 37 students! so the male to female ratio is about 4:1 sob sob...

[zqax]

oh ,
how about I love physic but isn't good at it at all ?I don't very fond of the calculation part..I need a long time to understand physic, but I like it...
I can study Biology easily in SPM but it is kind of boring compared to physic as I don't have the oppurtunities to think a lot...However,my bio result is a bit better than physic.....
So, should we choose what we are good at or what subject that we fond of?

[agape]

I heard that when we study f6, time factor will be the most crucial part of f6.Is this true?

If the subject is going to be tough for me to understand(for me is physics),why take?My logic is that in f6,I will not be able to have the time(even if I want to) to even grasp on what the topic is trying to say.I'm not trying to discourage anyone from taking physics,but I believe that I should go for the subject that I understand the fastest.(that's bio for me) :)

But if both subjects are going to be as difficult to understand,then go for tuitions! :wink:

[PINKPIGGY]

Thanks a lot 4 yr help.

actually i kinda like bio more, but some who finish their f6 in bio advise me 2 take phy(if can manage calculation) cos i dun quite like memorising. N our schl does not hs enough space 4 our exp.There r about 45 students (ya, mostly girls) in 1 class! Imagine how can we do experiments in such crowded lab(enough space for only 35-40 people).

There r also rumours that physics is easier 2 score A (than bio) in STpm. Is this true?

KevinKhoo:Physics students are generally have more variety of courses to choose when applying for local u

So, like Kevin says. . . . I am afrad that if i dunot do well in STPM, i become a zoologist, no no no! a zookeeper is worse (j. kidding :lol: )
:oops: [/quote]

[kucingbiru]

Lol..... inversely, my physics teacher told us that Physics is tougher than biology because u have so many formulaes to memorise.


hmm, i dont think ur physics teacher is right. whether physics or biology is tougher thn the other is highly debatable, so high that it will never end.

what ur teacher said might be her personal opinion, and i doubt anyone can prove it. everything relies on the ability of a person. to me, physics is so much easier compared to bio. in fact, i dont think i have to remember anything for physics.

so, back to original question. PINKPIGGY, i believe u've done both physics and biology in high school. so, u know which one u like better. do what u like, there's nothing wrong with it.

[HappyCat]

oh ,
how about I love physic but isn't good at it at all ?I don't very fond of the calculation part..I need a long time to understand physic, but I like it...
I can study Biology easily in SPM but it is kind of boring compared to physic as I don't have the oppurtunities to think a lot...However,my bio result is a bit better than physic.....
So, should we choose what we are good at or what subject that we fond of?

personally, my situation same with u...i like phy more than bio, but my bio's score always better than phy's... :?
however, i still choose phy cause i really like calculation things n hate memorising... :lol:
so, i suggest y don we study the subject which we fond of? then we won't regret in future. :)
in conclusion, it depends on yourself. :wink:

[pandaboy]

Just choose which one you like best....dont just judge on your SPM grades ...

After all, it's the interest that matters...you dont wanna study something that you're not interested, do you?

[petertok]

personally, my situation same with u...i like phy more than bio, but my bio's score always better than phy's... :?
however, i still choose phy cause i really like calculation things n hate memorising... :lol:
so, i suggest y don we study the subject which we fond of? then we won't regret in future. :)
in conclusion, it depends on yourself. :wink:

erm , mine's the opposite of yours , i like bio but dun like physics , but my phys's score is always higher than my bio...does it suggest that we perform better without stress ? well , i've always wanted to score in bio bcos its my fav subj :P

As for form 6 , i would definitely go for bio because memorizing's my cup of tea and im always weak in calculation stuff.. Yeah , i guess choosing the right stream for stpm depends on your interest rather than following your grades in spm.

[HappyCat]

erm , mine's the opposite of yours , i like bio but dun like physics , but my phys's score is always higher than my bio...does it suggest that we perform better without stress ? well , i've always wanted to score in bio bcos its my fav subj :P

As for form 6 , i would definitely go for bio because memorizing's my cup of tea and im always weak in calculation stuff.. Yeah , i guess choosing the right stream for stpm depends on your interest rather than following your grades in spm.

i agree with you. :D
gambate for you 8)

[nxwen]

Hmm... bio or physics? I used to face this problem too. Well, here's my opinion:

Biology and Physics in STPM is not in the same league as SPM. You learn much much more. For Phy, if you don't have a strong base in the subject, it will be quite tough for you. As the syllabus is quite extensive, the teacher will rush to finish the syllabus. In my case, most of my friends (me included) couldn't even digest what the lecturer just said but he rushed on to the next topic. Other than that, you need to memorise a lot of formulae, only a few will be provided during exam. And lots of exercise for physics, almost as much as Math, if you want to score in it. But most importantly, understand the concept. And then you can twist and turn the formulae as you please (which means less to memorise).

Well, for Biology, as mentioned, a lot of memorising to do. However, if you can combine understanding with memorising, you will need less memory... If you want to score well in bio, you need to do further studying. This helps a lot when you are answering essay questions. As for the dissection, no worry, the lab assistant will kill the rat for you (in my case, that is) using chloroform.

Actually speaking, I don't like memorising but I have no problem with it. So, in the end, I dropped Physics as I was doing badly in it. I couldn't grasp some of the concept. But I'm left with fewer chioce for courses. If only I had put in more effort.... I was slacking the whole of lower six (DON'T DO THIS) and only buck up in upper six.

In the end, it's up to you. You could take both and then drop one when you know your strength or interest. But once you made the choice, put in 110% of effort and you will have no regrets.

[pandaboy]

From a locked thread:

i just received my spm result not long ago... not bad... :) i'm deciding to head towards stpm... but i can choose either biology or physics... i like both subjects... but i got 1A for my physics but 2A for my biology :( ...
can someone pls give me some ideas or advice? :D

thank you!! :D

If you can cope with it, why not take both together with chemistry? Or you could take 5 subjects in lower six and once you've decided where your real interest lies, drop one of them. That's what I did. 2A in SPM Bio doesn't mean you can't get A in STPM Bio.

erm...you wish to study what course in future?
or what ambition you would like to be?
you can choose the subject according your ambition. 8)

i would say, take some time off, and then ask yourself, what do you really like to do? what is your ambitions? Which one would suit you better?..

take the time off and reflect for yourself, and hopefully you may find your answers deep down inside you...

i chose the path of physics, although i also do like bio, because of my love for astronomy:)

[wawa]

just received my spm result not long ago... not bad... i'm deciding to head towards stpm... but i can choose either biology or physics... i like both subjects... but i got 1A for my physics but 2A for my biology ...
can someone pls give me some ideas or advice?



why not take both if you can? Quite a number of students in my school do that.

erm , mine's the opposite of yours , i like bio but dun like physics , but my phys's score is always higher than my bio...does it suggest that we perform better without stress ? well , i've always wanted to score in bio bcos its my fav subj
score's don't really matter if you like the subject..you should choose according to what you like and not what you get higher grades it. :) I got the highest score for Biology in the whole school, but I prefered physics and look it instead. And everything has turned out okay!

[PINKPIGGY]

I also hope to take both as i get headache while choosing bio@<hidden>

However my schl don't allowed us to do this. Hai Yo!!!
My tacher tells me to go 4 A level if i want to take all science subject. However, i want to go to local u N no money.

[wawa]

walau...what kind of draconian school? well,,if you really want then have to take it on your own loh...
i've had seniors who took furthermath themselves...some turned out excellent some disastrously.

[yen_05]

Hello!!!!I'm new here.....this is my 1st post....sorry if my eng is not tat good. Btw,i oso goin to F6 but i'm yet 2decide which subject i should take...physics or biology. I got 1A for physics & 2A for Bio in SPM.....During F4 & F5, i love Physics very much...I manage to maintain 1A for Physics paper for every exam & test in school for da past 2 years. Meanwhile for biology paper, da most i go to is only 2A and tat is like 'Once in a blue moon'...I can make this decision coz biotech would hv a bright future in industry in coming years & da market demand would be pretty high. My family members(my dad especially) encourage me 2 take biology instead of physics in F6. In addition i'm a female. Anywayz....i think we should decide on our own & hv confidence in da decision tat we hv made.....\^@<hidden>^/ sorry 4 da poor command in english.....

[yen_05]

I wonder Y chemistry is a compulsory subject. Y can't drop chem and take bio & physics. How i wish i can take bio and physics only without chem......but i noe majority of you all guys will prefer chem and say it is da eaziest among 3 science subjects. 4 me i'll put physics first and then bio and lastly chemistry. Da reason i dun really like chem most probably is bcoz of my teacher.Thankful tat i manage 2 score 2A for chem in SPM. Well, i noe you guys punya school very good and got a bunch of great teachers & a lot of top scorers.....*sigh*....my school pulak....lousy & got serious discipline problems. Btw, my skul is in section 25, Shah Alam.. :( :x

[alan]

Dear Piggy,

This is a very important step. Please take it seriously.
If you see yourself as a doc in future, you have to study in bio stream (If you study in local U).
As far as I know, during my batch, there is someone who study in physics stream and take further math in addition success to gain admission to UKM in medicine. Please check it out. U may contact the UKM admisnistration office. I tried with USM before but they failed to give me any certain answer.
Good luck.

[PINKPIGGY]

THANX 2 all who reply! I wil take yr advice.

But, i think i wil take bio (most probably) cos my physics isn't that strong N my interest is in bio!

Wish me luck! :oops:

[kevinkhoo1986]

Dear Piggy,
U may contact the UKM admisnistration office. I tried with USM before but they failed to give me any certain answer.
Good luck.

Contact our local U administrations office seems to be very hard. Personally i have tried to contact UM, USM, UTM about the architecture course. But everytime i failed to get the answer i want. They gave a lot of excuses like "encik sila telefon sebentar lagi" , "maaf sekarang waktu sembahyang", "maaf encik X tidak ada di sini" and so on. I really hope that our local u staffs could change their attitude.

[HappyCat]

Hello!!!!I'm new here.....this is my 1st post....sorry if my eng is not tat good. Btw,i oso goin to F6 but i'm yet 2decide which subject i should take...physics or biology. I got 1A for physics & 2A for Bio in SPM.....During F4 & F5, i love Physics very much...I manage to maintain 1A for Physics paper for every exam & test in school for da past 2 years. Meanwhile for biology paper, da most i go to is only 2A and tat is like 'Once in a blue moon'...I can make this decision coz biotech would hv a bright future in industry in coming years & da market demand would be pretty high. My family members(my dad especially) encourage me 2 take biology instead of physics in F6. In addition i'm a female. Anywayz....i think we should decide on our own & hv confidence in da decision tat we hv made.....\^@<hidden>^/ sorry 4 da poor command in english.....
my english same with you, not very good... :wink:
erm...it is nothing wrong if you are female or male...female and male are same nowadays.
i agree with you that "we should decide on our own and have confidence in the decision that we have made", it is very important to everyone for never regret on decision which we had made.
so, in choosing to study either physic or biology, ask yourself: which subject you prefer?
if you think that biotech would have a bright future in industry in coming years and the market demand would be pretty high, it's no wrong if you choose biology.
in conclusion, it's all depend on you. :P

[HappyCat]

I wonder Y chemistry is a compulsory subject. Y can't drop chem and take bio & physics. How i wish i can take bio and physics only without chem......but i noe majority of you all guys will prefer chem and say it is da eaziest among 3 science subjects. 4 me i'll put physics first and then bio and lastly chemistry. Da reason i dun really like chem most probably is bcoz of my teacher.Thankful tat i manage 2 score 2A for chem in SPM. Well, i noe you guys punya school very good and got a bunch of great teachers & a lot of top scorers.....*sigh*....my school pulak....lousy & got serious discipline problems. Btw, my skul is in section 25, Shah Alam.. :( :x
chemistry has relationship with physic and biology.
may be majority of students will find that chemistry is the easiest subject between physic and biology, it is because chemistry need understanding, calculation, and memorising but not as tough as neither physic nor biology.
if you not really like chemistry because of your teacher, then try to avoid feelling like that...it's very wasting if you affected by your teacher until you are not interested in the subject.
wish all the best for you. :wink:

[nicodemus]

Choosing Bio or Physics?

Can we take both of them together? :?

And if I wants to take up Further Maths, which combination of subject would be better?

Bio with Further Maths or Physics with Further Maths?

I'm really interested in both...and my calculations are good, at least better than my memorising but when it comes to Physics, understanding some of the concepts are very tough for me.

What should i take?

[HappyCat]

Choosing Bio or Physics?

Can we take both of them together? :?
of course you can take both of them together.
but it depends on your school...
some school are not allowed... :wink:

[nicodemus]

Do you think I can cope?

Because I heard from people that to take both Physics and Biology is a waste of time and it's very difficult. :?

Or should I just take Further Maths?

[vseehua]

did i heard someone saying that physics need lots of memorizing of formulas??...here's my opinion...my lecturer always derive the equations on the board so that we can see the connections between the equations...so he always said, just memorize the basic equations will be enough...any others can be derived during the exam time if you do forget about them...thats how i remember my equations, learn the relationship between the equations and the remembering part will take care of itself...:)

[HappyCat]

yup, i agree with you, vseehua.
it is much more easier to learn the physic in this way.
we don't have to feel headache with it. :P

[wawa]

Maybe not too much...deriving sometimes takes lots of time..i learnt it the hard way, btw. five questions, all with unrelated part a and part b's in an hour. Nevertheless to say, i flunked it.

[vseehua]

well..i din say that you don't have to do any work first...hehe..the most important thing is to do revision always as usual:)....thatn'll help you remember most of the equations, if not all...:)

[nicodemus]

Can someone enlighten me on the format of STPM Biology and Physic paper?

Do we have an "Amali" paper like in STPM? And do we have to conduct experiments for PEKA?

[dlearn]

I have been reading this thread with great interest.

In my days, very few people study biology. I think it was because of the Vine & Rees text book that was very, very intimidating and boring, it was especially so in my time when we were the first batch to change from English medium to BM....V & R was still in English then!

I define biology as a 'derived science' where most of biological principles are derived from understanding of chemistry and physics. Take photsynthesis and transpiration in plants for examples.

In my previous life as a lecturer in private colleges, my speciality was in teaching biology to non-science major in an American degree program. I was successful in 'converting' many students to like biology as a subject. Come to think of it, biology is one subject matter that most of us would still use in every day life...your food, your diet-keep fit, your health etc. Of course my favourite tagline when I was still teaching was, "biology is the study of sex or the lack of it...in the case of asexual reproduction which is still the most common form found in nature".

I can't comment much about Physics as I did not touch the subject after my A levels, I still can't figure out many of the concepts and how I managed a B was still a mystery to me till this day. But when I was studying for my Master and had to study a number of chemical engineering subjects, I needed a bit of help from my Iraqi-Jordanian friend who was one hell of a great teacher and taught me a lot of things about physics and applying that to engineering. I had to play badminton with her as compensation!


If anyone is in doubt, use your gut instinct....if you are good in maths, especially applied maths, then your chances of doing well in Physics is high. If you are hopeless in chemistry, I will suggest that you comtemplate taking the art stream! As chemistry is needed for many technical studies, including engineering. Anyone wishing to study in biological or lifesciences field needs to have good grounding in chemistry.

At the higher level, it is important to have the aptitude for the subject, plain memorising is not going to work. A student needs to apply the knowledge gained in answering questions in a smart way.....come to think of it, some of my son's Std 4 science questions (in Chinese) are damed tricky too!

Doing well in SPM science subjects does not mean that a person will do equally well in STPM or A levels as the leap in standard is extremely high....that is a point where the 'boys are separated from the men".

[nxwen]

Can someone enlighten me on the format of STPM Biology and Physic paper?

Do we have an "Amali" paper like in STPM? And do we have to conduct experiments for PEKA?

All science papers in STPM consist of 3 papers. Paper 1 is objective questions. Paper 2 is structured and essay questions.

Paper 3 is like PEKA, but it makes up 10 marks on your overall grade. You'll need to do 15 experiments during F6 and these experiments will graded by your teacher. For Biology, there will be 3 group projects which you can start doing in the year-end holiday of lower six. These projects are collecting insect and plant specimens, and ecology report. As for physics and chemistry, there is no group project.

[jeszz87]

HALO...i am jeszz....hmm..it s that we r in the same boatlah...so now u ve decide which sub??phy or bio??i also headache 2 think about it ..frankly u r more luckily than me at least u got As in the sub..u know i just got As in phy..when i got B3 in che n bio i seem i ..hey dont talk this..maybe i am too over-confident lah..anyway bio or phy..i intend 2 choose bio n che coz phy is not my cup of tea .. maybe i am not so alert ..hahah..i intend 2 be a doctor ...but i also scare i ...bio n che ..
this is my hp #:0124886108..hope we can sms n share things lah hahahah..anyway ask 4 ur self u prefer bio or phy dont affect by people ..if people say phy n u prefer phy ok alright u choose nothing w cant do right??g.luck!!

[nicodemus]

Can someone enlighten me on the format of STPM Biology and Physic paper?

Do we have an "Amali" paper like in STPM? And do we have to conduct experiments for PEKA?

All science papers in STPM consist of 3 papers. Paper 1 is objective questions. Paper 2 is structured and essay questions.

Paper 3 is like PEKA, but it makes up 10 marks on your overall grade. You'll need to do 15 experiments during F6 and these experiments will graded by your teacher. For Biology, there will be 3 group projects which you can start doing in the year-end holiday of lower six. These projects are collecting insect and plant specimens, and ecology report. As for physics and chemistry, there is no group project.

You mean the 15 experiments conducted in the lab will be counted in our overall grade for STPM?

So if I want to take Physics as an extra subject, does it mean that I too have to conduct experiments? What if the school doesn't allows me to do so?

[nxwen]

You mean the 15 experiments conducted in the lab will be counted in our overall grade for STPM?

So if I want to take Physics as an extra subject, does it mean that I too have to conduct experiments? What if the school doesn't allows me to do so?

Yeah. 10 marks for your grade. Paper 1 takes up 30 marks while Paper 3 takes up 60 marks.

If you are doing triple science, you'll need to conduct experiments for all three subjects. If you school doesn't allow you, you can opt to do Paper 4, I think it's about the same as Paper 3 in SPM. Not too sure about the format though, as I've never seen the paper. Anybody out there who'd taken or seen Paper 4?

[joebf86]

sample of paper 4 is available in the past years question papers (yearly)....

[okaywhy]

I define biology as a 'derived science' where most of biological principles are derived from understanding of chemistry and physics. Take photsynthesis and transpiration in plants for examples.

That's the reason why I'm opting for physics although I'm pretty crazy of biology. I think physics is the fundemental of science, understanding physics is somewhat essential for doing good in science.

[lowch1]

I'm in the same dilemma with some of you. I love Chem but not Phy or Bio, although I get 1A in these 3 subjects in all exams be in SPM or school exam (except the first Chem exam which most of our class didn't do well). I don't like to memorize, but the thing is I'm very good at it. I think I might do better in Bio than Phy. But, Bio to me is quite boring. On the other hand, I don't really like Phy, perhaps due to the tough formula-memorizing and application questions. And the slack physics teacher might be one of the factors. I still not sure what I want to be in the future. I summited the form choosing Phy-Chem, but then again I'm worry that I'll choose the wrong combination. It's not too late to change my mind. I don't want to take up all three sciences, as I don't think I'll have time for all of them (I think). I also planning to take up further math (if I can find a good teacher). Argh...

[waikiki]

After reading all the post i still can't make up my mind as whether to study physic or bio?Urgh,why so hard!Throughout F4&5 i've always do better in physic than bio.though the highest mark i can get is 50t and for bio i nearly failed:30t.My science subjects are disastrous.I never like either physic or bio.

So tell me how to choose.My ambition ,unfortunately i dont have either.For the time being i chose physic but teachers told me that it is gonna be very hard and we must like it to excel it.i dont really like it and mostly students choose to go to physic 'cos they intend to go for engineering.i'm not into engineering.someone told me that if you choose physic it is easier to enter uni than bio students 'cos less competition prodided good results.IS this TRUE?

I wanted to change to bio 'cos all my friends are there and also because i went for both physic and bio tuition and i cannot grasp the concept for physic and the first chapter is has to do with dimensions.I just cannot do it.IS this normal?teachers are not encouraging.they seem that they encourage students to change to bio.It's only the first week studying physic and i dont want to give up that easily and i dont want to change b'cos all my friends are in bio.I also went for bio tuition and it's ok cos it has to do with bio in F4.Chloroplas,the fungsi and so on.Right now i really dont know what to do.bio seems easier but it certainly will get harder.i've always flunked my bio test.i am so..... :? wat am i going to do?Should i change to bio?Can i cope physic?Will i be able to do well in bio?

i also considering changing to arts but i have no friends there.i'll be lonely.i know i musn't follow my friends .ucan say make new friends but i not the kind that can make friends easily.I'm quiet,reserved and tend to sit in the corner of the class than talking and making friends.People will thought that i am very proud and dont want to talk to them.NO i am not that kind of person its that i feel inferior and just dont dare to speakto them.

urgh it is so difficult.physic or bio or arts can help give opinion

[hApEenDiNg]

ahahahha...this thread is really interesting...
haiya everyone i'm new here.
i was previously in science stream in f5, and got A1s in all science subjects. not 4 languages though :cry:

anyway, hv been mounting a lot on this topic too...
physic OR bio gets really sticky at times.
dat's y i gave all up and just turn to art stream 8)

anyway, i have an advice. it is not the score 4 phy & bio throughout f4 and f5 that determines your chioce in f6.
and the main difference is the language has changed in f6 to english. so try browsing f6 phy and bio textbooks 1st. you might hv some new ideas when it's all in english. physics might not be so hard at all when the inventor's theory is actually in it's name in english. in biology, u could easily keep up with information from magazines like new scientist or discovery. it is a positive approach at least~
( basically, i'm more comfortable in english navigated courses.eheheh )

follow your heart whether to go phy or bio.
juz like going italian or mamak.

you will only shine in the field of your interest. :D

[PINKPIGGY]

Thanks to all those who advise! I hv chosen bio and studying in F6 now. So, after a long discussion, can i know who choose bio@<hidden> phy@<hidden>, we can discuss how's our studies going on!

LET'S LEARN TOGETHER!

[cra]

anyone taking sejarah or geography? 8O or even chinese?

[hApEenDiNg]

hey i'm taking sejarah lar...darn... i don't know how i am going to survive with telephone-directories-thick books
any helpful navigations on sejarah here?

uh erh...not taking chinese though
~that is like super difficult to get A principle ..
i think i can get through using my spm bahasa cina :roll:

[cra]

8O i was only just joking, you taking sejarah? how's it like? i mean, i thought i heard sejarah was in chinese or something like that? guess i've heard wrong. btw, my bc sucks. lol, i'm like a buta huruf to mandrin characters, my essays all sound like kiddy stories, i dont know how to write complicated words. doh. i mean, sometimes you've got all these ideas and words, phrases and all in your head but you just cant write it cuz you dont know how to write the character. sigh.

[hApEenDiNg]

sejarah in chinese...heck, i'm gonna laugh my head off :lol:

f6 sejarah mainly consists of tamadun islam, tamadun dunia and tamadun asia tenggara. WhIcH IS ALL conducted in bahasa malaysia. as far as i know...i wish it is in english somehow :s
and mainly there are 2 papers, which is all in forms of essay questions.
d problem is i hate memorizing and i can only memorize things i like or interested in. and 4 me, it is still difficult to pinpoint whether i like sejarah. gAwD....HeLp mE!!!

hrm...cra, dat means u do know mandarin? cool, it is good you have made an effort however. never give up before trying to the very last end...

i used to get whacked from my bc tuition teacher, X when in f3. my essays juz sucks. but tiba tiba in f4&f5 another tuition teacher of mine,Y says i am very good in my essays. so it still kinde puzzling 4 me.

anyway cra, make sure u know how to write ur mandarin name. It is VeRy important. 8)

[cra]

har har har, i'm ok with my chinese, i mean, at least i think i'm ok. i was once quite ok with my bc, when i was at lower forms. but i was never good. (huh?)

anyway, let's leave tat, i remember when it was my sis's year, they learn more about the sejarah dunia than all those sejarah islam and all. i mean, when it's our year, the syllabus has changed, instead we've got the whole more than half the book about islam, and only a few babs about the world. damn. that kills my interest in history totally. i mean, sometimes the whole thing goes stale, they keep repeating the same thing like. like damn. it's worse than any spams or scams you could read online. i suddenly had this idea that the whole sejarah was a joke. indeed it was.

the world history, world war and other stuffs were far more interesting than what we read in the text book now.

from what i know i could sometimes sound sentimental and meaningful in chinese only when i'm using a phone, cuz all the chinese characters were set for you in the phone, so you'll dont have to worry about figuring how to write some words. the same goes with anything that has to do with computer. i mean like typing, etc, i found it more easier to type, and you could even find for your mistakes and learn more words. i dont know.

i'm not good in anything. that's a fact.

and yup, when i first heard (or thought i've heard) history in form6 was in chinese, i was like 8O .

[hApEenDiNg]

hey am bak! pc hanged so cant go on9...

my sis f5 year 2000 actually didn't learn a thing about the cold war among the major plates after world war 2. the perang dingin.
she was actually quite surprised when i said it was in our sejarah textbook and kinde marvel like,"wahhh...u all so good one..." :D

but i sort of think that the whole sejarah textbook is merely a tool to cover up or boast about history. so basically, i don think it's quite reliable. don't believe your book. hehe...

so, in order to pursue the truth, i am going to embark on a cash squandering journey. of coz to buy more books lor... :? hsih...

[bush]

STPM physics is too mathematical, so much so that it could lead to its failure. While mathematics is important in solving problems, qualitative thinking and expression is equally important if one is to succeed in fields like these.

What is the use of an engineer who can manipulate numbers and formulae but is unable to present his solution to the problem in front of a non-specialist audience. Even a successful physicist requires skills like these. One fine example is Richard Feynman.

Compare The A-levels in the UK and u will see the difference, calculations are there, but they are simple. What they like to ask are qualitative stuff, things like statements or situations where they want u to comment or criticise using ur knowledge gained from learning physics. One section has a passage adapted from real science journals, candidates will read it and answer questions related to the passage. It is vital as it tests u on ur ability to comprehend specialist pasages.

So where do the calculations go? since it is mathematics, therefore mathematics takes care of it. students can choose to sit for the entire mechanics module and gain a qualification in mechanics at A-level.

[cra]

cool! u know my teacher now just gave us the formulae and asked us to solve questions out, without even explaining to us why and how, it's so so sooo boring. now, where's the fun and sense in that? call that learning physics?

my view of learning physics is about learning theories and stuffs then apply it and all. not some guy who came in the class everyday and write the solutions of some questions on the board.