Stupidity at it's best

[Thirdshifter]

Here we are in the 2003 with identity theft at it's best http://www.mod.gov.my/senarai_pesertakn/senarai.html

I think the goverment went too far with this one.

[littlebigone]

Not sure what you're trying to highlight here but what struck me when I viewed the webpage is the blatantly published ic numbers.

My comment on this is I think it's a common practice in Malaysia. But I agree that it is kinda stupid. It makes our IC No. seem not important at all. Especially with what they're trying to do with MyKad, it would seem logical to be more aware of security issues.

thirdshifter, it would help if you make your topics more descriptive. It would make it easier to keep track of topics in future.

[Thirdshifter]

putting those ic nymber in public is what i meant. We had been taught to ask the police for IAD first if they want to view your IC. now its here on the www for everybody?

[topdog]

I find this highly amusing...in a sad kind of way. What's scary is if the people behind this do not think there's anything wrong with what they did.

[screw3d]

Wow.. with the IC you can suddenly know a person's birthday/birth place/gender.

At least the SSN system in the states does not use personal details to assign ID numbers, but even if anybody publishes anything like that here, a huge lawsuit is sure to follow.

The M'sia government is still not too concerned about personal privacy yet, i guess.

[Ishveir]

i agree with you about the privacy thing
i guess it is not an issue as we have been thaught to not indulge into privacy and matters pertinent with being independent as privacy has lots to do with being independent - im not sure on how to make my point but if anyone doesnt get what i typed just forget it as i dont know how else to type :P
anyway, well the issue about putting the IC numbers online, it depends on how we want to look at it - some of us might think it is violating our privacy but some might think that it is just a method of relaying information, however it is plain dumb needless to say.

well explains a lot about the people behind the decision to post it online.
can we do anything to change it i wonder?

[qedx]

lol here scammers pay for this type of info. nice to know malaysian govt provide this as a free public service

[Ishveir]

yeah like i said they people behind this decision are ....
up to you all to judge.

just hope that as time passes by at least the mentality of the people that make these decisions change as there are more important decisions that weigh much more than IC numbers being posted online.
take it easy, just what i thought

[silverblue]

Just wondering.... is there no concern about this issue in Malaysia now?

I mean, do people realize that this is being done? 3rdshifter, where did u get this from? I will be utterly surprised if there wasn't already an uproar against this unthoughtful and imprudent public display of personal identification numbers.

[Schye]

I always believe that in government department, the higher level we go, the smarter officers we will meet. (Ok, I admit that this sentence sounds weird)
I think those participants at least should have the right to know that they have their ID numbers posted although the main point is still, these should not be showed to public at all.

As Cheryl stated above, if there isn?t any uproar against this, maybe we should be the one who bring this issue up.

[Thirdshifter]

I will be utterly surprised if there wasn't already an uproar against this unthoughtful and imprudent public display of personal identification numbers.

it was just a random observation on how things are goin with the new program. And some dissusiaon with other fellow malaysian here.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/seasiabb

I don't think there's any uproar in Malaysia as i'm typing this. Just thought of bringing it to the light here @<hidden>

[Thirdshifter]

oh well, yesterday in the New strait times Daily. All of the IC number published on the web was printed. Am i the only one that thinks this is retarded?

[qedx]

this is malaysia we're talking about. i guess privacy is not really a major concern for malaysians

[chenchow]

In fact, I think if you can recall the time when you were reading newspaper back home, all those competition winners, lucky draws all have their IC number posted on newspaper... That's how all those companies announce their winning entry...

[silverblue]

Actually, besides exposing our privacy, what are all the possible things that people can do with our IC number? Maybe we can compile this as a list and send it to the govt. lol... just kidding... but really, i wanna know... like can they use it to do sth illegal? like what?

[qedx]

lets see, with just the numbers we know their exact DOB, place they were born and sex. is that info good enough for identity theft?

[littlebigone]

they could impersonate you i guess. That should make anyone nervous. Also, i think with the smart card and MyKad thingy, wouldn't there be more information avalaible at some database?

How about fake ID's? could you use the names and the number to steal identities and sell it to illegal immigrants?

[jiinjoo]

Hopefully these people know what they are doing. I think they are taking it to the other extreme, whereby you and your IC number are assumed to be public information and there should be nothing in the country that will use your IC number for authentication. The worst thing that can happen is that some group of people (e.g. some of us here on this forum) think that IC is private information, and unwittingly, in the future, apply it to serve as an authentication mechanism, while the other group of people, who thinks the information is public, downloaded it and kept it, after a few long years of hibernation, used it to fool that same authentication mechanism. This policy should be made clear somewhere somehow by someone :roll: hehe

[chenchow]

In terms of fake ID, I am not sure whether it is possible to make, as it is no longer the past--photo stuck in and typed in the details card. From what I was told, the current IC should have certain kind of security features.

One thing that I think different between US and Malaysia is that for US, by having the SSN number, it is sufficient to show authentication, but in Malaysia, we typically need to show IC. Providing the IC number alone does not suffice.

[b3ng_han]

If selected to go for training, better go for the Navy ... Living inside d ship are better than the land ... Inside d ship less physical training .. cos i went 1 week training b4 ..

[silverblue]

I think the BIGGER problem here is that some ppl are holding multiple authentic ICs at the same time...

I know that at some places, we are not required to turn in our old ICs when we receive our new one.... I am not sure how it's like now, but my cousin sister currently have 3 ICs. She lost one last time, renewed it and found her old one. So she got 2. Then, when she changed her IC to MyKad, they didnt ask for her old IC, so now she has 3 valid ICs!

I am sure many people out there, during their transition from old IC to MyKad, gets to keep their old IC. Wouldn't this pose a more serious issue?