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bp_ffei
07-05-2005, 03:14 PM
NUS = National University or Singapore
NTU = Nanyang Technological University
SMU = Singapore Management University

I've thought of starting this thread because I think some people (like me) get headaches over which university to choose. This is especially the case if you get offers from multiple universities and are contemplating which one to go to.

Of course, this would also be a great thread for those who are interested to pursue a tertiary education in Singapore. The opinions and experiences of those who are currently studying in either one of these universities are much welcomed.

Let's start the ball rolling!

nxwen
09-05-2005, 04:48 PM
Ermm....just asking for opinion. What do you guys think of NUS Life sciences?

For Biological Sciences, which is better? NTU or NUS? For NUS it's one of the majors in life sciences.

Thanks.

gohweihan
09-05-2005, 11:01 PM
I'm not quite sure about NUS, so I wouldn't do any comparisons here.

For NTU, the course structure is such that all related subjects to biological sciences is taught in Year 1. This means that there's no common science course that most other universities do. It also means once in, the focus is such that they would train you to become a graduate in Biological Science, not a graduate in Science majoring in Biological / Life Sciences.

If you say NUS's course is a degree in Science but majoring in Life Sciences, then it could mean a lot of things. For one, it could mean it's course is like NTU. Another one would be that it shares a somewhat similar course structure with other Science courses (i.e. Chemistry, but it's unlikely Physics), and they conduct a joint course for certain modules. Yet another one would be that the course is a general Science course, and you major in Life Science only in the third or fourth year.

shusyee_2lazy2register
09-05-2005, 11:54 PM
ok nxwen,

it depends wat you wanna do next time... i dun think both differ much except maybe in terms of focus.... can't tell since i'm not in nus....

neway, basic details of what to expect of bio sc in ntu. generally each module includes 2 hours of lecture and one hour of tutorial each week. except maybe for lab session (2 sessions of 3 hrs per week if i remember correctly... :P ). first yr deals with mainly introductory stuffs like organic chem, genetics, biochem etc. 1st sem shld be easy but 2nd sem requires lotsa memory work. can't tell you more than tt cuz i've only completed yr1. this course is not rigorous so long as u do constant work...

imho, if you r concerned about the prestigue of your degree then go for nus. afterall their scienc fac is established longer. quoting my friend, "nus is to ntu as cambridge is to imperial". ntu's bio sc has for it the honours programme (unless u fail every subject which means u wont qualify :wink: )

in the end it's all up to u. don't take my word for it (i chose ntu cuz i have this weird abhorrence of nus 8O ). i advise u to read thru all the info they provide u carefully. check out what the subjects they offer, the prospects, the options, etc. tt shld help u in making ur decision.

well, gambatte and God bless. chiao

bilangko
10-05-2005, 12:29 AM
Here's how it works in NUS. You enter as a science student. That leaves out Medicine and Pharmacy. (That means you can't take them as a science student.) Food Science is on a interview basis. You need to specially apply for it once you get your acceptance letter and go for another interview. Make sure you do not miss it.

Computational Finance is an odd major. You can't declare it as a major upon entering Science Faculty. You have to keep a CAP (Cumulative Average Point) of decent standing (above 3.5?) before you can apply for that major.

The rest is still pretty odd, but not as odd as above. Yes, you do graduate as a Bachelor of Science in whatever Major, but you'll be pretty specialized from the first semester. You need to take the prerequisites for your subsequent modules as early as possible so that you will not be late in graduating.

You can switch around but that is not advisable.

Get a copy of the latest curriculum here...

http://www.science.nus.edu.sg/undergraduate/curriculum/major/

If you can't click on it, copy and paste it into your browser.

It changes from year to year, but it is roughly the same. Earn enough credits and get out of the university as soon as possible.

I'll stop here before everyone hangs themselves after reading a long boring post.

Regards,
Bilangko

gohweihan
10-05-2005, 02:43 AM
well, gambatte and God bless. chiao

Your name sounds very familiar...

shiroi_tenshi
10-05-2005, 08:09 PM
To Bilangko,

Does this mean that once u got the offer from the Science fac in NUS they still need to look into more stuff before allowing u to major in bioscience? What i mean is......if i accept the NUS science fac offer, i might still have a possibility of not getting bioscience as my major issit?

nxwen
11-05-2005, 06:23 PM
How silly of me, I mixed up the name of the courses. :oops:

It's Biological Sciences for NTU and Biomedical Science for NUS. And there's another major in NUS which is Cell and Molecular Biology.

So, I'll read up first. hehe

rockjianrock
11-05-2005, 07:11 PM
Hey, for the USP program in NUS, does it actually make a difference?

coolcatxtreme
13-05-2005, 06:22 PM
USP may make a difference...u have the prestige of being called a 'scholar' haha not really sure how it helps u stand with employers

but USP also means a lot of extra writing modules..that's what i understand so far, you don't do some of the modules that your non USP peers do but have to take up more broad based USP modules

serised
15-05-2005, 02:56 PM
Hello ! I need some advice on NUS Engineering and NTU Accountancy . I've got the letter of offer for both courses and I'm now at a major crossroad of deciding which one should I take . Feeling kinda dumb for applying for 2 totally different courses now . :P
For NUS Engineering , I would like to know more about the streaming process.
I'm not sure if I'm creative enough to be an engineer and from what I've been told , it's not easy for a girl to survive in the course. As for accountancy, I'm kinda worry that i might not be able to cope as i'm a pure science student .
Nevertheless, I like both courses equally , maybe that's because i like to deal with numbers :wink:
Hope you guys can help me! Thanks!

bilangko
15-05-2005, 09:13 PM
Hope the audience don't mind sieving through this post

SPS & USP

Hey, for those science freaks (you know who you are!) you may consider SPS, a more focused kind of USP. SPS is focused on science more than a broadbased arts/science approach given by USP.

Here's a website for SPS:
http://sps.nus.edu.sg/

It is open for science students only though... And you need to go through an interview. After you finish this you'll get a certificate showing that you have went through this programme.

As for USP, if I'm not mistaken it is shown as a major on your degree as well.

Biological Science
There is no more biological science. The last graduate with the major Biological Science graduated last year. Three areas have been merged into what we now know as Life Sciences (don't ask...).

If you do get Science, you will definately get Life Science (formerly known as Biological Science). Still you should know what you are getting yourself into.

Now you graduate as a BSc in Life Science with a concentration of your choice. As for your major, you declare it when you are bidding (choosing) your modules at the start of every semester. It is the same for all the other majors that you do not need to specially apply for.

Life Sciencers are numerous, until we sometimes refer to them as "the half" of Science faculty. The rest of us who don't do life science is refered to as "the other half". Oh, you have to live with "washing test-tubes after graduation" jokes all the time.

Regards,
Bilangko

jiinjoo
16-05-2005, 01:55 AM
Hope the audience don't mind sieving through this post
Trust me people rather read what you wrote than some other unless idle chats - A big Thank You to your participation dude!


There is no more biological science. The last graduate with the major Biological Science graduated last year. Three areas have been merged into what we now know as Life Sciences (don't ask...).
Why!?!? (yes i'm asking...)

19-05-2005, 10:35 PM
Hello ! I need some advice on NUS Engineering and NTU Accountancy . I've got the letter of offer for both courses and I'm now at a major crossroad of deciding which one should I take . Feeling kinda dumb for applying for 2 totally different courses now . :P
For NUS Engineering , I would like to know more about the streaming process.
I'm not sure if I'm creative enough to be an engineer and from what I've been told , it's not easy for a girl to survive in the course. As for accountancy, I'm kinda worry that i might not be able to cope as i'm a pure science student .
Nevertheless, I like both courses equally , maybe that's because i like to deal with numbers :wink:
Hope you guys can help me! Thanks!

Hmm i can answer on NUS Engineering streaming as i'm goign through the course right now...but what do you really wanna know? As for the part about a girl surviving in the cousre, i think the girls are doing equally well but this has traditionally been a male dominated course so not many guys in it...i don think gender comes into play at the moment

anyway as for the streaming process, when you make your application now, you can choose common engineering or direct entry into chem &biomolec eng, comp eng, env eng. If you choose common eng, you will also soon be offered the chance to stream directly into mech, civil, ee, bio or industrial &systems eng (this was the system last year..not sure whether it has changed)

Basically, the first year modules will be the same for the 5 streams under common eng....env eng, comp eng and chem eng, you have to take particular modules relating to the course in year 1. If you want to do chem eng for example but was not offered the course ( its very popular) fret not, as you can do the common eng modules in year 1, at the same time taking the core modules for chem eng in your 1st and 2nd semester (it's compulsory for streaming purposes)

At the end of the 1st year will be the streaming exercise for common eng students...it's basically based on your choice versus how many points you've accumulated (a bit like a bidding system) different modules will have different weightage and will give you different points depending on the course and on the results. So the course will gof irst to the person with the higher points

that's all for now..hope that gives ua slightly clearer picture. Feel free to email me at kelvinlcs@<hidden> for more information

shiroi_tenshi
20-05-2005, 12:38 AM
I have this question......which one is better? To study Life sciences in NUS or to study Biological Sciences in NTU? I have asked many ppl and most of them told me NUS is far better. How far is this true and why? What are the advantages that u get for studying Life Sciences in NUS and vice versa?

rockjianrock
26-05-2005, 10:40 PM
Great... join life sciences/bio science and become the (x)th student of the how many thousand lifescience/bioscience students out there...

{x: x is an integer greater than zero}

Sorry. I'm one of the few f maths students remaining.

Randomphantom
08-06-2005, 07:45 PM
The NTU Bio science vs NUS Life science debate is getting old. However I can't really say which is better - its purely a personal choice. You might want to look into other factors besides "which is the better degree" eg the uni life, the facilities available.


Hello ! I need some advice on NUS Engineering and NTU Accountancy . I've got the letter of offer for both courses and I'm now at a major crossroad of deciding which one should I take . Feeling kinda dumb for applying for 2 totally different courses now . Razz
For NUS Engineering , I would like to know more about the streaming process.
I'm not sure if I'm creative enough to be an engineer and from what I've been told , it's not easy for a girl to survive in the course. As for accountancy, I'm kinda worry that i might not be able to cope as i'm a pure science student .
Nevertheless, I like both courses equally , maybe that's because i like to deal with numbers Wink
Hope you guys can help me! Thanks!

Coming from science myself, it really isn't that hard to cope IMHO - there are many ex-science JC students entering NTU Acc/Biz (bored to death by physics I presume :P). The most important thing you would need to equip yourself with is an OK command of English - to switch from science to arts would inevitably create a culture shock in many students, whatnot with the tons of report writing, presentations and group discussions. For me its sometimes scary to think that you can't rely on your trusty formulas and regurgitate memorised stuff in exams, as what they say "to score you just have to know how to crap - really well".

However if you're thinking accountancy means numbers, it isn't just about that. Its critically challenging in a different way from engineering. Do check up more on both professions before you make a choice. Oh and one thing - don't think that being a girl makes it tougher to survive in engineering. (Think of the many guys willing to share their notes with you...hehe)

aftershox
23-06-2005, 11:24 PM
hey there just wanna ask something bout sporean uni's although i got long time more to go b4 i finish alevels next year..
i plan to take up engineering...either aerospace or mech eng specializing in aerospace...
so i was thinking bout either NUS or NTU,,,
any suggestions..but from what i heard from NUS they said i have to take SAT 1 and 2 to enrol at NUS...is that true...
bout NTU...i think one of the recommers is doin aerospace at NTU...
bp_ffei i think...pls advice me...just wanna know my options ahead of time..

nxwen
24-06-2005, 10:45 AM
I don't think you'll need SAT to get into Singapore university. But of course, I didn't apply for engineering because I didin't take physics in pre-u. Aerospace engineering is a new course this year, those who will be doing it will be the pioneers. About suggestions, I'll leave them to the others.

Btw, you said you'll finish A-levels next year, does that mean that you'll finish around May or June, and then results out in August? If that is so, you may face some trouble because the intake starts before you results are released.

aftershox
24-06-2005, 12:21 PM
nxwen wrote
Btw, you said you'll finish A-levels next year, does that mean that you'll finish around May or June, and then results out in August? If that is so, you may face some trouble because the intake starts before you results are released.

i'll be starting next month....so i'll be finishing my alevels in dec next year....when are the intakes for uni in spore? are there 2 intakes or only 1 in august?

mutterfricken
24-06-2005, 02:04 PM
As far as i know, there is only one intake.... but u can check out with them..... www.ntu.edu.sg If u r going to NUS, u can only do mechanical engineering and then specialize in aeronautical.... there is no such thing as an aerospace specialization in NUS. Aerospace is a combination of both astronautical and aeronautical. Aeronautical specialization only allows u to do a few subjects while aerospace in NTU is a course in itself and u will devote all ur time on that throughout ur uni years..... If u r not sure about what u want to do in the future... mechanical engineering NUS is a better choice for u cause u can still branch off into other specialization later on.... but if u r very sure that u want to be an aeronautical engineer then of course doing an aerospace degree in NTU is much better... The main difference is that a mechanical degree allows u to work in more field compared to an aerospace degree... however this is offset by the fact that an aerospace degree commands a higher pay....

aftershox
25-06-2005, 12:32 AM
mutterfricken wrote
If u r going to NUS, u can only do mechanical engineering and then specialize in aeronautical.... there is no such thing as an aerospace specialization in NUS.

thanx for correcting me... i just checked it again at NUS website...


If u r not sure about what u want to do in the future... mechanical engineering NUS is a better choice for u cause u can still branch off into other specialization later on.... but if u r very sure that u want to be an aeronautical engineer then of course doing an aerospace degree in NTU is much better... The main difference is that a mechanical degree allows u to work in more field compared to an aerospace degree... however this is offset by the fact that an aerospace degree commands a higher pay

but someone told eventhough i would happen to do aerospace i could still get a job where it concerns mechanical engineering,... coz basically aerospace is a specification of mechanical where u learn more of fluids,aerodynamics and all...and i've pretty much made up mind on doing aerospace...so i'll check out NTU...thanx for all the clarification and info.....

coolcatxtreme
10-07-2005, 10:09 AM
i'm going into mech eng second year at NUS....in NUS , the specialization only comes in during your 4th year if i'm not mistaken...and you have the option to specialise in about 9 different fields from design to mechatronic to aeronautical....so yeah i guess aeronautical engineersr can do mech eng as well since the grounding work is the same

bp_ffei
10-07-2005, 11:05 PM
Firstly, I want to apologize to aftershox coz I seemed to have neglected his post... :oops:

No, SAT is no longer a requirement in Singapore universities; but i guess most people have answered that.

And yes, there is only one intake per year for NTU.

Feel free to add me in MSN. :)

zqax
08-08-2005, 04:33 PM
hey , will my chances for going to NUS/NTU affected if I did not select Further Math in STPM?

bp_ffei
08-08-2005, 07:04 PM
That's very unlikely. They state clearly that Further Maths is not a prerequisite to study engineering undergraduate courses and that applies to everyone, Singaporean or not.

Most people take Further Maths out of interest. Just so happens that most people who study further maths go on to study engineering (because it's rather relevant mah!). But also got some who go on to study business or accounting etc....

coolcatxtreme
12-08-2005, 04:03 PM
even the word further maths sends shivers down my spine....nop i din do further maths for stpm..cause my school wasn't equipped to teach it........

at any rate..further maths is not necessary tho if you do have it, it'll be very useful for you...year 1 maths is a revision of your further maths..whereas for poor sods like me it's something totally new

aftershox
13-08-2005, 01:40 AM
bp_ffei wrote
Firstly, I want to apologize to aftershox coz I seemed to have neglected his post... Embarassed

No, SAT is no longer a requirement in Singapore universities; but i guess most people have answered that.

And yes, there is only one intake per year for NTU.

Feel free to add me in MSN. Smile

sorry for the late reply.. havent had easy access to pc in kl..thanx for answering me anyways....

oneforthelord
09-11-2005, 12:45 PM
Hi there. Ok this is how the SAT thing works:

You don't need SAT 1 at all to apply for NUS/NTU. HOWEVER, if it so happens that your results aren't that good, they will also take into consideration your SAT 1 score when deciding whether to take you in or not. So if you scared your results not good enough, take SAT 1 because it affects their overalll judging.

zqax
01-01-2006, 01:12 PM
Hi there. Ok this is how the SAT thing works:

You don't need SAT 1 at all to apply for NUS/NTU. HOWEVER, if it so happens that your results aren't that good, they will also take into consideration your SAT 1 score when deciding whether to take you in or not. So if you scared your results not good enough, take SAT 1 because it affects their overalll judging.

Will we have better chances if we(with STPM) takes additinal SAT test?

How about SAT II? Will those Singapore University consider it as advantages?

I saw the registration form stated (if applicable ) for SAT 1 & II,
does that means that it is not an requirement but some sort of plus point?

Besides, should I take Toefl if I already have MUET?

Thanks ..

bp_ffei
19-01-2006, 03:29 AM
Hi there. Ok this is how the SAT thing works:

You don't need SAT 1 at all to apply for NUS/NTU. HOWEVER, if it so happens that your results aren't that good, they will also take into consideration your SAT 1 score when deciding whether to take you in or not. So if you scared your results not good enough, take SAT 1 because it affects their overalll judging.

Will we have better chances if we(with STPM) takes additinal SAT test?

How about SAT II? Will those Singapore University consider it as advantages?

I saw the registration form stated (if applicable ) for SAT 1 & II,
does that means that it is not an requirement but some sort of plus point?

Besides, should I take Toefl if I already have MUET?

Thanks ..

Hm... I thought the SAT thing was only applicable for those taking A-levels in Singapore and only for my batch? Oh well... not sure, so better send an email to the Ministry of Education to enquire about it or check their website.

SAT I and II are definitely not requirements to enter NUS/NTU/SMU... they are requirements if you want to get certain Singapore scholarships like A*Star Scholarship. "If applicable" just means that if you have it put it down... it'll probably be a plus point if you are aiming for those scholarships offered by the uni itself (ASEAN, Nanyang, NUS scholarships).

Oh, and I think taking MUET is good enough for Singapore universities...

ll_angel86
23-01-2006, 02:55 PM
I plan to study economics.
can someone plz tell me whether it would be better to study at NUS or NTU?(better lecturers?)

n wat about facilities at these 2 universities? which is better?

Locationwise?

thanx. :D

kevinkhoo1986
23-02-2006, 12:18 PM
Does anyone here have ever tried to apply for NTU or NUS before? I have browsed through their website and i found that the online application process are way too lenient Lenient in the sense that they just required our photostated documents and we can put our marks without any supporting documents. What if some of the applicants are cheating?

kevinkhoo1986
24-02-2006, 05:26 PM
I have submitted the required supporting documents(photostated and certified by notary public). Even you simply put your marks in online appliaction, you still need supporting documents to prove the marks. So, if you cheat, your application will be rejected. Unless you do "something" on the documents lah....

But they never mentioned anything about certification in their website. By the way, where should i find the notary public? what is the role of notary public?

bp_ffei
28-02-2006, 02:12 AM
I have submitted the required supporting documents(photostated and certified by notary public). Even you simply put your marks in online appliaction, you still need supporting documents to prove the marks. So, if you cheat, your application will be rejected. Unless you do "something" on the documents lah....

But they never mentioned anything about certification in their website. By the way, where should i find the notary public? what is the role of notary public?

They WILL check your certificates etc. AFTER you've got in... if I didn't remember wrongly. The penalty for cheating? Kicked out of uni loh...

nxwen
28-02-2006, 07:28 PM
But they never mentioned anything about certification in their website. By the way, where should i find the notary public? what is the role of notary public?

I sent in certified copies of certificates for my application. And yes, they WILL check your certificates after you are admitted.

Kevin, you are from Klang rite? Should be able to find some in Klang. If not, go to Shah Alam PKNS Kompleks. Notary public is for the signing of tuition grant rite? You will only get the papers after you are admitted if I'm not mistaken.

pooh86
07-03-2006, 06:49 PM
:D Harlo ......... Im currently tryin 2 apply uni in Sg? Can u all teach me how 2 apply as my result will cumin out nxt wk .. I wish 2 my luck wether i can ente SG uni anot ... Im frm Art Stream n taking STPM at yr 2005... Pls let me know more information abt courses in tat Sg uni offer.. N how 2 apply ?? Ur co-operation are very need ... ThaNks ..

nxwen
08-03-2006, 08:53 PM
Just go to the university websites, everything you need to know is there.

victorvandort
30-03-2006, 05:09 PM
NUS n NTU r among the top 200 universities worldwide rite?
is SMU among it too?

does it matter actually?

and, any idea where i can get the list of top 200 uni's? thx

bp_ffei
02-04-2006, 11:36 PM
NUS n NTU r among the top 200 universities worldwide rite?
is SMU among it too?

does it matter actually?

and, any idea where i can get the list of top 200 uni's? thx

NTU and NUS are in the top 50 in the ranking. SMU is not on the ranking. It's relatively new anyway.

Well, i googled for "THES world ranking" and apparently you'd have to register to see the rankings, and I'm lazy to do that. You just try to find your way to get hold of the rankings then.

Well, you shouldn't follow the university's ranking blindly... sure they somewhat show the standard of the university, but that's not everything. Do your own research, find out which university suits your taste (and your wallet), and is the best possible one (within your capacity) to achieve the goals you want in your life.

coolcatxtreme
07-04-2006, 09:43 PM
well yea...the rankings have their own criterias..there isn't any one objective ranking that is able to satisfy all criterias...however be confident that if u graduate from any of these 3 universities with a decent qualification your degree will be recognised anywhere in the world.

in terms of prices, there's not much difference between nus and ntu...i'm not too sure about smu though. however, if you remove the tuition grant thing, you'd be paying as much school fees that you would if you were studying in australia.

for people who din't get scholarships, i do suggest that you still come to singapore if u do not get a course that you like in malaysia...that's because there are many financial aids available...not only that..there are many scholarships offered by singapore companies which will be open to yr 1 students from all nationalities..in fact every year of studies tehre will be some companies offering scholarships.

kelvin
kelvinlcs@<hidden>

strikingstar
08-04-2006, 01:25 AM
victorvandort wrote

and, any idea where i can get the list of top 200 uni's? thx

So helpful me provides free of charge: http://www.ntu.edu.sg/home2003/kokc0001/THES.pdf

These are the same rankings which placed UM at 169. Take these rankings with some salt (no not because it ranks UM at 169) because no rankings are holistic or perfect. Some rankings are just utter bilge.

joshuatj
09-04-2006, 11:48 PM
Any ReComers heard of the new NUS Engineering Science course?

eslite
10-04-2006, 08:35 AM
Its a really new course that is only being offered this year. Compared to other engineering courses, it will cover a wider range of discipline and more research oriented. In the 4th year, you can choose to specialize in 4 categories which I cannot remember.

joshuatj
10-04-2006, 01:38 PM
Is it popular among applicant?
Because I chose it as my first choice in the NUS application.

Aki
09-05-2007, 12:50 PM
May I know that which school's business is better?nus or ntu?

nicodemus
10-05-2007, 06:14 PM
Hei... I'm in a dilemma...

I got an offer for NTU in chemistry and NUS in science which I attend to major in chemistry.Which Uni is better?

Personally,I'm more interested in NTU... :)

but still need some advice...

jiinjoo
11-05-2007, 10:03 AM
haha - sama sama la :) the beauty is in the eyes of the beholder - you ask NTU student they say NTU better, you ask NUS student they say NUS better, same for SMU, SIM, you-name-it-university bla bla bla

nicodemus, NUS is traditionally stronger in pure sciences, which NTU had been portrayed to excel in the application side and business related side. They have probably cross over each other by a lot by now, but still, A*Star and the magnificent Fusionopolis / Biopolis and other rah-rah research is going to be around NUS, you probably see it still deeply rooted in fundamental chemistry research.

Aki, IMHO, if you serious in a sort of "business" degree, then you probably should head over to SMU if you can afford to. But I think you'll be better off if you can get some form of technical degree instead, and do more of the "business" part as an elective or as a masters later. A pure business degree (unless you're into the specifics, for example finance or accounting, where there's a professional opportunity) is too general for an undergrad to appreciate and apply effectively.

victorvandort, SMU is 3 years old...

koln_auhc
11-05-2007, 11:26 AM
victorvandort, SMU is 3 years old...

Haha, SMU ppl are so going to hunt you down for that word.Especially with the dot dot dot " ... "

Even NTU's new science building is besides MOE, Biopolis which is down the road to ACJC and behind NUS so you probably guess where all the research is going to happen.

jiinjoo
13-05-2007, 11:28 AM
Haha, SMU ppl are so going to hunt you down for that word. Especially with the dot dot dot " ... "
Eh they say one.. I hang out with a bunch of students there and they are the ones who go out to meet others (outside S'pore) and get looks like "SM-what? Yew? isn't it Goh?"

ok wait - stupid joke i made up :P

but seriously, i had this issue even graduating from CMU. CMU was 100 years old when I was there, and they are amongst the movers and shakers of modern civilization. And even with that I can go around the states and see people go like "what Mellon? Water Mellon?" when compared to 350 years old Harvard or even as new as 150 years old MIT, 130 years old Stanford.

So it depends on you whether you are those who wants to identify with something established for a long time. Same goes when one debates whether you identify with 5000 years of "Chinese" history more or 500 years of "Malaysian/Melakan" history, whether you should work your first job in huge companies or startups, whether you should pick up the mainstream religion or some of the more "creative" ones started recently.

koln_auhc
13-05-2007, 11:40 AM
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but seriously, i had this issue even graduating from CMU. CMU was 100 years old when I was there, and they are amongst the movers and shakers of modern civilization. And even with that I can go around the states and see people go like "what Mellon? Water Mellon?" when compared to 350 years old Harvard or even as new as 150 years old MIT, 130 years old Stanford.



Prestigous universities. haha. Too bad we take notice of the name in almost all cases. Like celebrating them in Newspaper headlines and stuff. Just part of life I guess since it is so deeply rooted in our society.
Perhaps our focus could change for once.


ps: nice joke. SM-Goh. CMU not that unheard of la. Watching Singapore Dreaming will probably help you more. haha.

Aki
21-05-2007, 12:12 PM
jinjoo,thanks for your advice.I am offered business by nus and ntu.Too late to consider for any other courses,haha.I didn't apply for smu though, I didn't heard much abt it before and thought it's relatively new.(guess like i am one of those that was blinded by the chaos of getting into a so called 'more prestigeous' university.I have accepted the offer from ntu with the Asean Undergrad Scholarship.

jiinjoo
01-06-2007, 04:02 PM
Well, wish you a good stay here - get involved and get busy, this way you'll not regret whatever school you pick la.

LessienElensar
13-11-2007, 11:35 PM
Hi, I am hoping to be accepted into NUS,NTU & SMU for next year's intake. I was rejected, sadly by NTU due to.. I don't know why.

I finished my A Levels this June and I did Accounting, Math, Chem and Physics up to A2 Level and Thinking Skills at AS Level. I guess none of the Sg Unis recognize Thinking Skills as a subject. I scored all A s for all subjects except for Physics in which I got a B. I would like to know whether this will play down my chances of being accepted.

I would like to apply for the Business/Accounting degree for all 3 Universities.

Will it be much more difficult for me to enter NUS, NTU or SMU since I am from the Science stream?
There has been a rumour that Sc stream students (non-Sg) would find it much more diff to enter biz degrees compared to sc degrees.
I am quite worried here. I hope you will be able to help me out in this.

Also there's this requirement by SMU to take the SAT1 and IELTS (since I did not take MUET) and I have to score a min of 1900/2400. Anyone here hv taken the SAT1 before? Any ideas on how I could get by this test? I hope you can help me out in this.

Thank you.

suyuen
13-11-2007, 11:53 PM
Oh that is so not true. I have friends who took Econs, Chem, Physics and Math studying in the Faculty of Arts & Social Sciences at NUS right now.

I think the reason why you got rejected is because you just finished your A levels in June this year and am already applying for early intake. Usually students who finish in June have to take additional exams like SAT I / SAT II etc in addition to the standard requirements.

However, if you apply for next year's intake 2008/2009, you won't have to take these additional exams (at least for NUS and NTU).

For tips on SAT I and SAT II, hop on over to the US Universities Application thread, there are lots of discussion and tips happening over there.

Hope this helps! :)

LessienElensar
14-11-2007, 10:42 AM
Oh, okay.. Thanks.. It does help.. But I wonder whether the B might just pull me down... there's a quota there right? about 20% int students only.

any other pointers on applying to nus, ntu & smu? =D

It's quite a long wait- until next August. I've been thinking of starting of a sem of Uni locally here first tho... hv not decided about that yet.

wgy589
14-11-2007, 05:08 PM
seems like S'pore Uni is the onli choice 4 u. y not consider other Uni's?

LessienElensar
14-11-2007, 10:20 PM
Hmmm... I have offers from several Australian Unis, but...

What do you suggest?

In M'sia it's Tbs (UWE) / Monash... I don't know which to choose. 1) UWE isnt highly ranked and I'm not sure whether tbs is gd or not. however, it's a 3 years hons prog. 2) Monash is an Aust programme and has slightly diff format and it's a 4 yrs hons...

Are you still in Uni?

wgy589
15-11-2007, 12:11 AM
wat abt the Aus Uni's. I think the reputation of NUS is equal to dat of Aus Uni's, eg Mel, Monash (nt sure abt the Malaysia 1), UNSW, Sydney. If u got the financial support, Aus is realli a gud choice.

I'm doin my degree in S'pore now, n i can't actualli feel studyin in a foreign Uni, while Aus Uni will definitely give u the foreign exposure which i think is impt 4 ur career progression n life enrichment.

maxx
31-05-2008, 11:14 AM
Is it easy for d Malaysian with SAM TER>95 to be accepted in any course in SMU?? (esp economics)

Please make the replay asap..
thx a lot!

kintaro_kun
31-05-2008, 05:11 PM
Is it easy for d Malaysian with SAM TER>95 to be accepted in any course in SMU?? (esp economics)

Please make the replay asap..
thx a lot!

SMU requires interviews apart from academic excellence. so, TER 95 is not the only factor to be considered.

Caprio
10-08-2008, 03:47 PM
SMU is seeking for a well rounded individual. Good command of english is an added advantage.

Eurytos
10-08-2008, 04:08 PM
SMU are for business and law students. Personally i would prefer NUS double degree in engineering and economics over NTU Actuarial Science. But there are alot to take into factor too. So i guess i will take whatever is offered.

Selau1
22-03-2009, 09:44 AM
For those who are interested in learning about life in Nanyang Technological University, or NTU in Singapore. There is a website showing photo galleries of events and places in NTU. It gives you a rough idea of facilities and life in NTU.

It is at
www.phototour.sg

Especially for the NTU Open House Event 2009 L.I.F.E @<hidden> NTU.
www.phototour.sg/Events/NTU_OpenHouse_SBS_lounge.html

Its supposed to be a day where Undergraduates come to NTU to get to know about NTU.
There are exhibitions of student clubs and also booths for various schools.

The following Images are from NTU Open House 2009

Hope this will help those who are choosing which university to enroll in.

http://www.phototour.sg/Events/NTU_OpenHouse_SBS_lounge/NTU_OpenHouse_SBS_lounge-015.jpg

http://www.phototour.sg/Events/NTU_OpenHouse_SBS_lounge/NTU_OpenHouse_SBS_lounge-007.jpg

http://www.phototour.sg/Events/NTU_OpenHouse_NanyangAudi/NTU_OpenHouse_NanyangAudi-003.jpg

http://www.phototour.sg/Events/NTU_OpenHouse_NanyangAudi/NTU_OpenHouse_NanyangAudi-027.jpg

kfc
11-04-2009, 12:19 AM
ntu no good, im studying now in ntu...now running to other uni

luminodreamer89
11-04-2009, 01:21 AM
why would u say so, kfc?? I am applying to NTU actually and feel kinda shocked to hear u say so..do tell me, plszz

markwongsk
11-04-2009, 03:47 PM
yea people say NTU is the ASEAN MIT... don't scare me now =( what's wrong with NTU???

Eurytos
11-04-2009, 03:56 PM
LOL i applied for pure physics in NTU and science in NUS. Kindly elaborate more on why NTU is no longer a good U ?

amoebaleong
11-04-2009, 04:53 PM
I dont know why he says NTU is not a good university. From what I can see in the past 8 months, NTU is actually quite good. Not the top in the world, but can still be considered among the best in Asia(especially Nanyang Business School).

Engineering wise, NTU is not bad, in my opinion. Although I think we learned less compared to local U in the first year, we should be able to catch up. The professors here are ok, but some from China are not so fluent in English. So you may have problem understanding their lecture. They are knowledgeable in science and maths though.

Studying in NTU is also more competitive than local U. Here, you can see a lot of very good students from ASEAN, China and India. You will be forced to work hard if you want to maintain a good grade.

In the end, it is all up to you. If you can get a better offer, by all means go ahead. But NTU is definitely not a bad university and I am looking forward to seeing you guys here.

ice111
11-04-2009, 05:14 PM
ntu no good, im studying now in ntu...now running to other uni

Woh , kfc where are you going? , which university you plan to jump into???
MIT , Harvard , CALTECH , Georgia Institute of Tech???

Congratz , if you manage to transfer to any of this university!!!
:)

Hmmm , NTU no good??? , well i do agree with you , if you say NTU is no good ;
first , there is no guarantee of a hall stay in NTU , if you dint not join any CCA(co curricular activities) or meet the Cut off Point , this is a drawback of NTU , every year , residents have to compete to stay in a hall!!!

second, NTU has a very high tuition fee , if you cant get a grant from the MOE SG , the tuition fee plus your living allowance can easily cost you about RM 60k per year (that fro Mech Eng , ~SD 24k per year tuition fee)

third , NTU has a crazy life style = if you sleep at 12 am , i believe you are the earliest guy sleeping in NTU , even though you walk to the toilet from your room at 2am , if you see everyone awakes!!! , NTU is packed not only with the syllabus but with a lot of CCA , and social gathering(if you are active person ,if you are introvert , then you will have plenty of time to spend for the 3 months bfr exam)

4th , being the top in NTU is crazy , competing with the best students in ASEAN , most of the students from foreign countries are either the top in their countries , or they are Olympiad medalist!!!

5th , to obtain CPGA 5.0 in NTU , you will have to be the best of the best not only in academic but in everything ,which means you are perfect!!! , every year <1% got CPGA 5.0!!!

hahaha , NTU is quite bad right???
:)

along123
22-04-2009, 06:32 PM
NUS much more better than NTU. Lots of new high technology product which was created by NUS student and profs. If you open The Straits Times, you will realised that all the high position in society community or company (AWARE Singapore, DBS, Microsoft, CISCO,...) all are graduated from NUS.

A big contrast between NUS & NTU is that NUS not need to do lots of advertisement on it's school but it is rather well known in the world, in our heart. Only 2nd class school or 3rd class need to speak loudly to everyone to sell their quality...

Everytime in any speech which delivered by MM Lee and PM Lee, NUS is the 1st Uni to describer 1st.

In conclusion, NUS http://www.recom.org/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif NTU http://www.recom.org/forum/images/icons/icon13.gif

bubblezlott3
24-04-2009, 11:56 PM
well, it kinda depends on what you want to study.

NTU is famous for its business school and its engineering program. But note that, THE business school is VERY tough to get in.

NUS is well known for its Sciences, Med and Dentistry. Their Faculty of Arts and Social Science are also very high-ranked (18th in the world,2008) and its tough to get into NUS if you don't have good scores (cgpa 3.5 and above i believe).

SMU is a rather new kid on the block and its famous for its business programmes. I am not very sure about SMU but as what my friends say, its also very competitive but the style of classes is diffrent compared to NTU and NUS.

Overall, its up to you. Of course, NUS is THE best from ranking wise and quality of education.

theunknown
25-04-2009, 12:07 AM
so for engineering courses...ntu's better??

any seniors wanna tell something?

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I would also like to know what are the differences in the styles of teaching in SMU, NTU and NUS for Economics. :)

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Hello there I am a student in one of the JCs in Singapore and my maths is on the brink of dropping from H2 to H1 level. I would not give up just yet, but I am just wondering, will this decrease my chances of entering into a Singapore university in future? I am aiming for a degree in economics, either in NUS or SMU. preferbly SMU :D
I would also like to know what are the differences in the styles of teaching in SMU, NTU and NUS for Economics. :)

It is not wise to drop H2 maths as H2 maths serves as passport to many courses.