Horoscope in SIG

[PeiWen]

I am quite interesting in horoscope. I do not mean supersitious, but rather I find that the characteristics defined in each horoscope are quite accurate. Instead sometimes those can be guidelines for us in our daily lives. Personally, I'm a sagittarian, and I think the descriptions for my personalities and my other sagittarius friends are quite precise. What say you? :roll:

[PeiWen]

I am quite interesting in horoscope. I do not mean supersitious, but rather I find that the characteristics defined in each horoscope are quite accurate. Instead sometimes those can be guidelines for us in our daily lives. Personally, I'm a sagittarian, and I think the descriptions for my personalities and my other sagittarius friends are quite precise. What say you? :roll:

[luke]

uh by SIG, you mean "signature" or "Special Interest Groups" ?

[luke]

uh by SIG, you mean "signature" or "Special Interest Groups" ?

[laplace]

Well, in fact, no matter the SIG is signature or Special Interest Group, it is also a good idea to open up an SIG for Horoscope.

People might think horoscope is something superstitious or something that come with no logic, just used for past time reading and so on but if majority feel that there is a need for this SIG, I would be glad to open it. By the way, I am Gemini. I read the horoscope section from The Star or NST, sometimes. I don't see any similarity with my life but I know Gemini is someone like double-attitude, as the matter of fact, I have this type of attitude... :wink:

laplace..

[laplace]

Well, in fact, no matter the SIG is signature or Special Interest Group, it is also a good idea to open up an SIG for Horoscope.

People might think horoscope is something superstitious or something that come with no logic, just used for past time reading and so on but if majority feel that there is a need for this SIG, I would be glad to open it. By the way, I am Gemini. I read the horoscope section from The Star or NST, sometimes. I don't see any similarity with my life but I know Gemini is someone like double-attitude, as the matter of fact, I have this type of attitude... :wink:

laplace..

[qedx]

just open one up...

[qedx]

just open one up...

[Vigilante]

Objections to Astrology
A Statement by 186 Leading Scientists, including 18 Nobel Prizewinners

(The following statement first appeared in The Humanist of September/October 1975.)

Scientists in a variety of fields have become concerned about the increased acceptance of astrology in many parts of the world. We, the undersigned--astronomers, astrophysicists, and scientists in other fields--wish to caution the public against the unquestioning acceptance of the predictions and advice given privately and publicly by astrologers. Those who wish to believe in astrology should realize that there is no scientific foundation for its tenets.

In ancient times people believed in the predictions and advice of astrologers because astrology was part and parcel of their magical world view. They looked upon celestial objects as abodes or omens of the gods and, thus, intimately connected with events here on earth; they had no concept of the vast distances from the earth to the planets and stars. Now that these distances can and have been calculated, we can see how infinitesimally small are the gravitational and other effects produced by the distant planets and the far more distant stars. It is simply a mistake to imagine that the forces exerted by stars and planets at the moment of birth can in any way shape our futures. Neither is it true that the position of distant heavenly bodies make certain days or periods more favorable to particular kinds of action, or that the sign under which one was born determines one's compatibility or incompatibility with other people.

Why do people believe in astrology? In these uncertain times many long for the comfort of having guidance in making decisions. They would like to believe in a destiny predetermined by astral forces beyond their control. However, we must all face the world, and we must realize that our futures lie in ourselves, and not in the stars.

One would imagine, in this day of widespread enlightenment and education, that it would be unnecessary to debunk beliefs based on magic and superstition. Yet, acceptance of astrology pervades modern society. We are especially disturbed by the continued uncritical dissemination of astrological charts, forecasts, and horoscopes by the media and by otherwise reputable newspapers, magazines, and book publishers. This can only contribute to the growth of irrationalism and obscurantism. We believe that the time has come to challenge directly, and forcefully, the pretentious claims of astrological charlatans.

It should be apparent that those individuals who continue to have faith in astrology do so in spite of the fact that there is no verified scientific basis for their beliefs, and indeed that there is strong evidence to the contrary.

Sponsoring Committee

(Affiliations, as of 1975, given for identification only.)

Bart J. Bok, emeritus
Professor of Astronomy
University of Arizona

Lawrence E. Jerome
Science Writer
Santa Clara, California

Paul Kurtz
Professor of Philosophy
SUNY at Buffalo

Signed by 183 others, including 18 Nobel Prizewinners
http://www.csicop.org/bib/276

[Vigilante]

Objections to Astrology
A Statement by 186 Leading Scientists, including 18 Nobel Prizewinners

(The following statement first appeared in The Humanist of September/October 1975.)

Scientists in a variety of fields have become concerned about the increased acceptance of astrology in many parts of the world. We, the undersigned--astronomers, astrophysicists, and scientists in other fields--wish to caution the public against the unquestioning acceptance of the predictions and advice given privately and publicly by astrologers. Those who wish to believe in astrology should realize that there is no scientific foundation for its tenets.

In ancient times people believed in the predictions and advice of astrologers because astrology was part and parcel of their magical world view. They looked upon celestial objects as abodes or omens of the gods and, thus, intimately connected with events here on earth; they had no concept of the vast distances from the earth to the planets and stars. Now that these distances can and have been calculated, we can see how infinitesimally small are the gravitational and other effects produced by the distant planets and the far more distant stars. It is simply a mistake to imagine that the forces exerted by stars and planets at the moment of birth can in any way shape our futures. Neither is it true that the position of distant heavenly bodies make certain days or periods more favorable to particular kinds of action, or that the sign under which one was born determines one's compatibility or incompatibility with other people.

Why do people believe in astrology? In these uncertain times many long for the comfort of having guidance in making decisions. They would like to believe in a destiny predetermined by astral forces beyond their control. However, we must all face the world, and we must realize that our futures lie in ourselves, and not in the stars.

One would imagine, in this day of widespread enlightenment and education, that it would be unnecessary to debunk beliefs based on magic and superstition. Yet, acceptance of astrology pervades modern society. We are especially disturbed by the continued uncritical dissemination of astrological charts, forecasts, and horoscopes by the media and by otherwise reputable newspapers, magazines, and book publishers. This can only contribute to the growth of irrationalism and obscurantism. We believe that the time has come to challenge directly, and forcefully, the pretentious claims of astrological charlatans.

It should be apparent that those individuals who continue to have faith in astrology do so in spite of the fact that there is no verified scientific basis for their beliefs, and indeed that there is strong evidence to the contrary.

Sponsoring Committee

(Affiliations, as of 1975, given for identification only.)

Bart J. Bok, emeritus
Professor of Astronomy
University of Arizona

Lawrence E. Jerome
Science Writer
Santa Clara, California

Paul Kurtz
Professor of Philosophy
SUNY at Buffalo

Signed by 183 others, including 18 Nobel Prizewinners
http://www.csicop.org/bib/276

[laplace]

Guys, I have opened an SIG for Horoscope. I can't remember which thread but when I gone through all the threads in the forums, one of them was talking about astrology. So, feel free to join in and discuss about this topic, I expect it would be very interested. :wink:

Stars, Planet & Horoscope (http://www.recom.org/modules.php?name=SIG&id=horoscope1)

laplace..

[laplace]

Guys, I have opened an SIG for Horoscope. I can't remember which thread but when I gone through all the threads in the forums, one of them was talking about astrology. So, feel free to join in and discuss about this topic, I expect it would be very interested. :wink:

Stars, Planet & Horoscope (http://www.recom.org/modules.php?name=SIG&id=horoscope1)

laplace..

[Cirnelle]

i find the character analysis of each horoscope, generally, quite accurate....there must be a reason behind this seemingly non-scientific belief. and i am interested in knowing this reason. To totally deny the truth of astrology is, in my view, impossible. what i'm interested in is to which extend is astrology true, or reliable.
some say it's just a matter of probability, but doesn't a higher probablity means higher accuracy? ( or is it?).....hmm...what do u guys think?

[Cirnelle]

i find the character analysis of each horoscope, generally, quite accurate....there must be a reason behind this seemingly non-scientific belief. and i am interested in knowing this reason. To totally deny the truth of astrology is, in my view, impossible. what i'm interested in is to which extend is astrology true, or reliable.
some say it's just a matter of probability, but doesn't a higher probablity means higher accuracy? ( or is it?).....hmm...what do u guys think?

[__earth]

some say it's just a matter of probability, but doesn't a higher probablity means higher accuracy? ( or is it?).....hmm...what do u guys think?

but how do you know there's a higher prob in astrology?

aslo, consider this, just because a tail on a coin has the prob of 0.5 doesn't and astrology says it gonna land on the tail, and it happens to land on the tail for the first toss doesn't mean astrology is right.

if you take these so called truthsayers' prediction and do its std dev, Std Error, the stats tests will prolly yield a low result that will fail even the a 95% interval test.

[__earth]

some say it's just a matter of probability, but doesn't a higher probablity means higher accuracy? ( or is it?).....hmm...what do u guys think?

but how do you know there's a higher prob in astrology?

aslo, consider this, just because a tail on a coin has the prob of 0.5 doesn't and astrology says it gonna land on the tail, and it happens to land on the tail for the first toss doesn't mean astrology is right.

if you take these so called truthsayers' prediction and do its std dev, Std Error, the stats tests will prolly yield a low result that will fail even the a 95% interval test.

[topdog]

astrology is good for a laugh. people who depend on it to live their lifes need help.

[topdog]

astrology is good for a laugh. people who depend on it to live their lifes need help.

[PeiWen]

well, different people may have different views...perhaps some people will think that people who believe in horoscope are ridiculous or without any 'logical minds'...however, there are many astrologists who spend decades in this field. Undeniably, this field has stayed for centuries... :wink:

[PeiWen]

well, different people may have different views...perhaps some people will think that people who believe in horoscope are ridiculous or without any 'logical minds'...however, there are many astrologists who spend decades in this field. Undeniably, this field has stayed for centuries... :wink:

[__earth]

spending decades on a subject doesnt make the subject respectable.
The ancient Greek and the midterreanean folks up to the early renaissance period believed that the Earth was flat. after more than a thousand years of such believe, the Earth is not flat.
believing in things doesnt make the things right.

[__earth]

spending decades on a subject doesnt make the subject respectable.
The ancient Greek and the midterreanean folks up to the early renaissance period believed that the Earth was flat. after more than a thousand years of such believe, the Earth is not flat.
believing in things doesnt make the things right.

[PeiWen]

true..you've got your point...guess you never see eye to eye with whatever i propose? Haha....well, i always welcome people's comments and reprimands...thanks :wink:

[PeiWen]

true..you've got your point...guess you never see eye to eye with whatever i propose? Haha....well, i always welcome people's comments and reprimands...thanks :wink:

[laplace]

Hi,

After I read through the replies from topdog and earth, I wonder, can we treat horoscope as something err... non-logical?

I mean... not everything we put in Recom for discussion is logical, such as programs, hardware, news and so on. Take an example, you know that Walt Disney cartoon are all not-real, just for the sake of past time but how come so many ppl talk about the story of Beauty and The Beast, Lion King, Little Mermaid and so on?

I am not saying who is right or wrong. Personally I treat horoscope as something I used for past time, not for laugh topdog... :wink:

Just like praying... I am a free thinker, I have no religion, I don't pray. But some times (maybe once a year or once a decade...) when I feel emotional, depressed or what... I will pray. I don't hope or believe that the holy spirit can do anything for me, it is just something used to comfort yourself.

Horoscope... I will not follow exactly how the horoscope ask me to do, but when I read it through, I will try to compare if there is any similarity with me or my life. Just for reading purpose...

And for the discussion of Horoscope, why can't we treat it as something new and start to discuss it? No one say that after you start the discussion, you are superstitious, you are stupid or what... the concept is just like the discussion of Donald Duck is very cute but a little bit selfish, Mickey and Minnie Mouse love each other very much... bla bla bla... I am not sure you guys understand what the heck I am trying to say .... hahahaha!!!!!

laplace..

[laplace]

Hi,

After I read through the replies from topdog and earth, I wonder, can we treat horoscope as something err... non-logical?

I mean... not everything we put in Recom for discussion is logical, such as programs, hardware, news and so on. Take an example, you know that Walt Disney cartoon are all not-real, just for the sake of past time but how come so many ppl talk about the story of Beauty and The Beast, Lion King, Little Mermaid and so on?

I am not saying who is right or wrong. Personally I treat horoscope as something I used for past time, not for laugh topdog... :wink:

Just like praying... I am a free thinker, I have no religion, I don't pray. But some times (maybe once a year or once a decade...) when I feel emotional, depressed or what... I will pray. I don't hope or believe that the holy spirit can do anything for me, it is just something used to comfort yourself.

Horoscope... I will not follow exactly how the horoscope ask me to do, but when I read it through, I will try to compare if there is any similarity with me or my life. Just for reading purpose...

And for the discussion of Horoscope, why can't we treat it as something new and start to discuss it? No one say that after you start the discussion, you are superstitious, you are stupid or what... the concept is just like the discussion of Donald Duck is very cute but a little bit selfish, Mickey and Minnie Mouse love each other very much... bla bla bla... I am not sure you guys understand what the heck I am trying to say .... hahahaha!!!!!

laplace..

[PeiWen]

mm...true there laplace..I mean you've got what's in my opinion as well.
I think horoscope would be an interesting topic indeed. After all, we should feel amazed at how our ancestors came out with all the theories and what they claimed to be true according to these horoscpes. And of course the latest analysis from our astrologists, to predict the life, love life, health etc for each of the horoscope annually. :wink:

[PeiWen]

mm...true there laplace..I mean you've got what's in my opinion as well.
I think horoscope would be an interesting topic indeed. After all, we should feel amazed at how our ancestors came out with all the theories and what they claimed to be true according to these horoscpes. And of course the latest analysis from our astrologists, to predict the life, love life, health etc for each of the horoscope annually. :wink:

[Vigilante]

After all, we should feel amazed at how our ancestors came out with all the theories

Yes, I am amazed and proud of our ability to be creative and imaginative to bring up new ideas, no matter how stupid it sounds.

However, suggesting a stupid idea is one thing; defending a baseless idea is another. The former is brainstorming, the latter is irrational.

I am ashamed of our human weakness that tends to listen to ideas that is most comforting. I am ashamed that our ancestors have tortured, burnt and killed those who voiced something that they didn't want to hear - Socrates, Copernicus and Galileo (perhaps Jesus as well?) were among those who were suppressed.

I am ashamed that I still see, on newspapers, cases of people being raped or murdered by 'mediums/bomoh' who claimed that they could perform exorcism.

I am ashamed that psychics and fortune tellers such as Sylvia Brown, or Lillian Too, has more public influence, than scientists who worked hard without rewards, to conduct experiments and examining evidence that came into unbiased conclusion that horoscope or Feng Shui don't work. I am ashamed that scientific evidence has become an enemy to many people.

But I will always be proud of those who have the will to ask questions and seek truths. I am proud of those who have the courage to speak against authority and popular beliefs.

We need more people like Carl Sagan to constantly remind us that our greatest gift is the ability to use logic and reason.

Thus I would like to make a suggestion: The formation of a SIG that

"encourages the critical investigation of paranormal and fringe-science claims from a responsible, scientific point of view. It also promotes science and scientific inquiry, critical thinking, science education, and the use of reason in examining important issues. " - taken from www.csicop.org

Then we can have discussions on topics such as Astrology, Feng Shui, ESPs, psychics, Alternative Medicine (homeopathy, Reiki, chiropractic), UFOlogy, Evolution, hauntings...etc

It will involve students from different fields as we need their knowledge, expertise and opinions from different perspectives - physical science, mathematicians, psychologists, medical/pharmacy, philosophers, historians, law and business students.

Feedback please. Thank you.

[Vigilante]

After all, we should feel amazed at how our ancestors came out with all the theories

Yes, I am amazed and proud of our ability to be creative and imaginative to bring up new ideas, no matter how stupid it sounds.

However, suggesting a stupid idea is one thing; defending a baseless idea is another. The former is brainstorming, the latter is irrational.

I am ashamed of our human weakness that tends to listen to ideas that is most comforting. I am ashamed that our ancestors have tortured, burnt and killed those who voiced something that they didn't want to hear - Socrates, Copernicus and Galileo (perhaps Jesus as well?) were among those who were suppressed.

I am ashamed that I still see, on newspapers, cases of people being raped or murdered by 'mediums/bomoh' who claimed that they could perform exorcism.

I am ashamed that psychics and fortune tellers such as Sylvia Brown, or Lillian Too, has more public influence, than scientists who worked hard without rewards, to conduct experiments and examining evidence that came into unbiased conclusion that horoscope or Feng Shui don't work. I am ashamed that scientific evidence has become an enemy to many people.

But I will always be proud of those who have the will to ask questions and seek truths. I am proud of those who have the courage to speak against authority and popular beliefs.

We need more people like Carl Sagan to constantly remind us that our greatest gift is the ability to use logic and reason.

Thus I would like to make a suggestion: The formation of a SIG that

"encourages the critical investigation of paranormal and fringe-science claims from a responsible, scientific point of view. It also promotes science and scientific inquiry, critical thinking, science education, and the use of reason in examining important issues. " - taken from www.csicop.org

Then we can have discussions on topics such as Astrology, Feng Shui, ESPs, psychics, Alternative Medicine (homeopathy, Reiki, chiropractic), UFOlogy, Evolution, hauntings...etc

It will involve students from different fields as we need their knowledge, expertise and opinions from different perspectives - physical science, mathematicians, psychologists, medical/pharmacy, philosophers, historians, law and business students.

Feedback please. Thank you.

[topdog]

can we just do it like this? those who are interested in discussing horoscope/astrology/etc. can join theSIG (http://www.recom.org/modules.php?name=SIG&id=horoscope1) for it.

i don't know exactlywhat this thread is here for but don't expect people who think astrology is a farce to not voice their opinions here.

[topdog]

can we just do it like this? those who are interested in discussing horoscope/astrology/etc. can join theSIG (http://www.recom.org/modules.php?name=SIG&id=horoscope1) for it.

i don't know exactlywhat this thread is here for but don't expect people who think astrology is a farce to not voice their opinions here.

[luke]

um hello .. the SIG is already approved since some time ago but seems like no one notices ... oh well ...

[luke]

um hello .. the SIG is already approved since some time ago but seems like no one notices ... oh well ...

[PeiWen]

yea, thanks a lot to laplace..he has been contributing it to the Horoscope in SIG....he has just posted some info on solar system, horoscope signs etc..interesting stuffs....check it out guys... :wink:

[PeiWen]

yea, thanks a lot to laplace..he has been contributing it to the Horoscope in SIG....he has just posted some info on solar system, horoscope signs etc..interesting stuffs....check it out guys... :wink:

[Vigilante]

I browse through the solar system part. That's what I learn in astronomy course (I love astronomy btw). I repeat, ASTRONOMY. ASTROLOGY is a whole different thing. That's another thing I learn in the astronomy course. People often can't differentiate the difference between ASTRONOMY and ASTROLOGY.

Former is main-stream science. The latter is fringe science.

[Vigilante]

I browse through the solar system part. That's what I learn in astronomy course (I love astronomy btw). I repeat, ASTRONOMY. ASTROLOGY is a whole different thing. That's another thing I learn in the astronomy course. People often can't differentiate the difference between ASTRONOMY and ASTROLOGY.

Former is main-stream science. The latter is fringe science.

[laplace]

Hi Vigilante,

Maybe you can tell me the difference of Astronomy and Astrology? I was an O level student only, I have no chance to study in university, so I do not know if there is any mistake in my SIG posting. I am sorry if there are mistakes...

By the way, my SIG is not only for horoscope but for some other logical knowledge such as solar system, stars, galaxy and so on. I hope to see more people join in.

laplace..

[laplace]

Hi Vigilante,

Maybe you can tell me the difference of Astronomy and Astrology? I was an O level student only, I have no chance to study in university, so I do not know if there is any mistake in my SIG posting. I am sorry if there are mistakes...

By the way, my SIG is not only for horoscope but for some other logical knowledge such as solar system, stars, galaxy and so on. I hope to see more people join in.

laplace..

[__earth]

By the way, my SIG is not only for horoscope but for some other logical knowledge such as solar system, stars, galaxy and so on. I hope to see more people join in.

Astrology is not about the solar system nor it's about the stars nor the galaxies. It's about making assumptuous effects the celestial bodies have on individual/s. An expert in astrology is an astrologer.

Astronomy is about the study of the celestial bodies. An expert in astronomy is an astronomer.

[__earth]

By the way, my SIG is not only for horoscope but for some other logical knowledge such as solar system, stars, galaxy and so on. I hope to see more people join in.

Astrology is not about the solar system nor it's about the stars nor the galaxies. It's about making assumptuous effects the celestial bodies have on individual/s. An expert in astrology is an astrologer.

Astronomy is about the study of the celestial bodies. An expert in astronomy is an astronomer.

[Vigilante]

Fact: There are more astrologers in the world than astronomers.

No prestigious or reputable university offer any courses in astrology to produce astrology graduates.

You don't need any qualifications to become a full-time astrologer. Most astrologers don't have any qualifications - no standards, no code of ethics. Most astrologers disagree with one another.

Astronomers: One of the hardest major to graduate in. You need at least a Ph. D to become a real astronomer. You start working independently at the average age of 30 - 35. The success of landing humans on moon and sending probes to Mars (and to the edge of the solar system) are the successes of astronomers.

Astrologers on the other hand, distract and confuse the public between real scientific research and bizarre, baseless, unfounded and pseudoscientific fortune-telling.

That's two comparison of the qualifications and knowledge needed between the two.

*I love astronomy. I went to Sunway College once during career counseling and told the counselor that I wanted to become an astronomer. You should look at his blank face when he heard that.

If we want to discuss about astronomy (exploration, big bang, space and time dimensions, time travel), please open another SIG or forum. I hate to see the view points of astrologers being side by side with the ideas of astronomers who spent years and money to conduct experiments. Furthermore, any outsiders who visit our page would be have a bad impression of us for the failure to differentiate between astrology and astronomy

[Vigilante]

Fact: There are more astrologers in the world than astronomers.

No prestigious or reputable university offer any courses in astrology to produce astrology graduates.

You don't need any qualifications to become a full-time astrologer. Most astrologers don't have any qualifications - no standards, no code of ethics. Most astrologers disagree with one another.

Astronomers: One of the hardest major to graduate in. You need at least a Ph. D to become a real astronomer. You start working independently at the average age of 30 - 35. The success of landing humans on moon and sending probes to Mars (and to the edge of the solar system) are the successes of astronomers.

Astrologers on the other hand, distract and confuse the public between real scientific research and bizarre, baseless, unfounded and pseudoscientific fortune-telling.

That's two comparison of the qualifications and knowledge needed between the two.

*I love astronomy. I went to Sunway College once during career counseling and told the counselor that I wanted to become an astronomer. You should look at his blank face when he heard that.

If we want to discuss about astronomy (exploration, big bang, space and time dimensions, time travel), please open another SIG or forum. I hate to see the view points of astrologers being side by side with the ideas of astronomers who spent years and money to conduct experiments. Furthermore, any outsiders who visit our page would be have a bad impression of us for the failure to differentiate between astrology and astronomy

[laplace]

Astrology is not about the solar system nor it's about the stars nor the galaxies. It's about making assumptuous effects the celestial bodies have on individual/s. An expert in astrology is an astrologer.

Astronomy is about the study of the celestial bodies. An expert in astronomy is an astronomer.

Oh thanks earth. Now only I know the difference... :lol:

Anyway, my initial intention for my SIG was discussion for Astronomy, Stars, Planets and Horoscope. Maybe it is a little bit weird with the existance of Horoscope but if my SIG is only for Horoscope, not much ppl will join and it is not my interest too.

If we want to discuss about astronomy (exploration, big bang, space and time dimensions, time travel), please open another SIG or forum. I hate to see the view points of astrologers being side by side with the ideas of astronomers who spent years and money to conduct experiments. Furthermore, any outsiders who visit our page would be have a bad impression of us for the failure to differentiate between astrology and astronomy

And for Vigilante, I hope you can understand the meaning of SIG, which is Special Interest Group. So if you do not have the interest with this, you may feel free to ignore our SIG. I am not trying to make noise here but, hopefully you can show some respect to those who have joined in this SIG. The mistakes of mixing up Astronomy and Astrology, please accept my apology as my incompetent knowledge which I have mentioned before that my education qualification was up to O level only, but of course, I will make the necessary correction towards my post. And I hope that you can kindly not to "bold" the text in your post just to emphasize our failure of diffentiating these 2 words. Thanks..

laplace..

[laplace]

Astrology is not about the solar system nor it's about the stars nor the galaxies. It's about making assumptuous effects the celestial bodies have on individual/s. An expert in astrology is an astrologer.

Astronomy is about the study of the celestial bodies. An expert in astronomy is an astronomer.

Oh thanks earth. Now only I know the difference... :lol:

Anyway, my initial intention for my SIG was discussion for Astronomy, Stars, Planets and Horoscope. Maybe it is a little bit weird with the existance of Horoscope but if my SIG is only for Horoscope, not much ppl will join and it is not my interest too.

If we want to discuss about astronomy (exploration, big bang, space and time dimensions, time travel), please open another SIG or forum. I hate to see the view points of astrologers being side by side with the ideas of astronomers who spent years and money to conduct experiments. Furthermore, any outsiders who visit our page would be have a bad impression of us for the failure to differentiate between astrology and astronomy

And for Vigilante, I hope you can understand the meaning of SIG, which is Special Interest Group. So if you do not have the interest with this, you may feel free to ignore our SIG. I am not trying to make noise here but, hopefully you can show some respect to those who have joined in this SIG. The mistakes of mixing up Astronomy and Astrology, please accept my apology as my incompetent knowledge which I have mentioned before that my education qualification was up to O level only, but of course, I will make the necessary correction towards my post. And I hope that you can kindly not to "bold" the text in your post just to emphasize our failure of diffentiating these 2 words. Thanks..

laplace..

[royston]

Yo Laplace ma boy!!! I have seen you done a great job in your SIG, that really impressed me huh...

Well, I always believe that Recom members are all fully educated and no one will like to argue in the forums, this including Vigilante. So I believe you are a little bit sensitive mate... haha...

I agree with Vigilante, mixing up both Astronomy and Astrology will not bring any benefit to Recom in terms of external impression, so make sure we check our data before posting it out. And for the correcting parties, since we are from the same Recom family, we can simply IM or mail that particular person to correct them instead of "bold" up the text and publish it out here... also not making sense right Vigilante?

I guess Laplace you should make your SIG clear in both Astronomy and Astrology, in your forum, if possible, try to differenciate them properly will do. I saw you have rename your SIG, that's a right thing to do. No harm to put both items in, so that members can differentiate and compare them.

Vigilante, you will be appreciated if you can help us to put in more information about Astronomy in, we can take this chance to show people how much effort the astronomers have put in. No harm to put both of them side by side, but we will see a clearer picture on both of them, how does it sound?

~ roy ~

[royston]

Yo Laplace ma boy!!! I have seen you done a great job in your SIG, that really impressed me huh...

Well, I always believe that Recom members are all fully educated and no one will like to argue in the forums, this including Vigilante. So I believe you are a little bit sensitive mate... haha...

I agree with Vigilante, mixing up both Astronomy and Astrology will not bring any benefit to Recom in terms of external impression, so make sure we check our data before posting it out. And for the correcting parties, since we are from the same Recom family, we can simply IM or mail that particular person to correct them instead of "bold" up the text and publish it out here... also not making sense right Vigilante?

I guess Laplace you should make your SIG clear in both Astronomy and Astrology, in your forum, if possible, try to differenciate them properly will do. I saw you have rename your SIG, that's a right thing to do. No harm to put both items in, so that members can differentiate and compare them.

Vigilante, you will be appreciated if you can help us to put in more information about Astronomy in, we can take this chance to show people how much effort the astronomers have put in. No harm to put both of them side by side, but we will see a clearer picture on both of them, how does it sound?

~ roy ~