to be a specialist

I attended JPA's program pendedahan kerjaya seorang doktor recently and a doctor told me that a new policy has been set for those doctors who wants to specialise in a certain field . According to the him , all doctors who want to specialise in M'sia have to take their masters in the country . If one wants to study overseas , one cannot practise as a specialist locally . He also said that the number of seats for the masters programme every year is limited , hence one might have to apply for a few years before getting the approval to do their masters . After that , it is also compulsory for those specialists to work for the government for ( if i'm not mistaken ) 4 years .

Can someone clarify this ?

Another question , what is the difference between MD , MBBS , Dr , MO ?

[masdie]

MBBS=Medicin? Baccalaureus & Baccalaureus Chirurgi?. An undergraduate medical degree offered in some Commonwealth countries. Offered in UM as an undergraduate medical degree.

MD=Medicin? Doctor. In the US and Canada, this is a graduate level medical degree. In M'sia, eg:UKM, they're offered as an undergraduate medical degree. In the UK, an MD is a doctorate degree for medical doctors.

Other variations include MB BChir, MB ChB, BM, MB BCh BAO etc

Most of the time, all these refers to a degree a medical doctor gets. Most of the time, they learn similar stuff though course structure differes from country to country.

A Dr is a shortform for medical doctor I guess. People with PhDs have a DR in front of their name.

MO=Medical Officer. In M'sia, MOs are those who've completed their housemanship but have not gone for specialisation. Other countries call them differently eg: in the UK=SHOs (Senior House Officers)

[lianawakaka]

im sorry but what is undergraduate medical degree? sorry :oops:

[youngyew]

MBBS=Medicin? Baccalaureus & Baccalaureus Chirurgi?. An undergraduate medical degree offered in some Commonwealth countries. Offered in UM as an undergraduate medical degree.

MD=Medicin? Doctor. In the US and Canada, this is a graduate level medical degree. In M'sia, eg:UKM, they're offered as an undergraduate medical degree. In the UK, an MD is a doctorate degree for medical doctors.

Other variations include MB BChir, MB ChB, BM, MB BCh BAO etc

Most of the time, all these refers to a degree a medical doctor gets. Most of the time, they learn similar stuff though course structure differes from country to country.

A Dr is a shortform for medical doctor I guess. People with PhDs have a DR in front of their name.

MO=Medical Officer. In M'sia, MOs are those who've completed their housemanship but have not gone for specialisation. Other countries call them differently eg: in the UK=SHOs (Senior House Officers)
That is my first time knowing the actual wording of MBBS... *ashamed* Most of the time it is known as "Bachelor of Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery". By the way, undergraduate degree means the first course you take up in the university, i.e. the medicine course is not done after some other courses such as health science etc.

By the way, are Dr and DR separate? Refer to this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_%28title%29

May I know which local university in Malaysia does offer Master programme for Medicine? :D And how to apply?Thanks

[byzhanii_bogn]

really? i didn't know about that?

so does that mean we must do masters locally? what about specialization? this is shite man...

The official is clearly misguided. That, or, as in so many cases, the left hand of the government knows not what the right hand is doing. What is going to happen to programme to woo back overseas Malaysian specialists if what this bureaucrat says is true? I'd take what these pen-pushers say with a very big pinch of salt.

[stargazer]

Hey.. I would like to know after MBBS and internship, one is an MO yeah.. how many more years does one take to specialise in a course? Say peads??

[sour-plum]

CAn i know wat is the difference btw MBBS n MO?i mean the both will be recognised by our government?both also able to futher their study in specialise??which one is much more better?

[youngyew]

May I know which local university in Malaysia does offer Master programme for Medicine? :D And how to apply?Thanks
There are a few universities which offer Master programs, but I am not sure which ones and how to apply.


so does that mean we must do masters locally? what about specialization? this is shite man...
Nope, we don't have to do master locally.

Hey.. I would like to know after MBBS and internship, one is an MO yeah.. how many more years does one take to specialise in a course? Say peads??
Yeah, MO is a "medical officer", a "rank" of doctor in Malaysian hospital. The length of specialist course varies from one speciality to another, but basically it is mostly between 3 to 6 years. And after that speciality course, there is an even more professional "sub-speciality" which will take you a even longer time.

CAn i know wat is the difference btw MBBS n MO?i mean the both will be recognised by our government?both also able to futher their study in specialise??which one is much more better?
MBBS is the degree of medicine study you get from certain universities (e.g. UM, australian universities etc), MO is the rank of doctor in Malaysian hospital as I mentioned above. I am not sure if you are actually referring to MD. If you actually mean MD, it's already been described above - it's just another type of medical degree, but it's a post-graduate degree, meaning that you have to study other course before you can enrol in the medicine course. This is the system in US currently, and some other countries like Australia will follow suit in the coming years.

Some say that MD would be better because one would have already be equipped with more experience and knowledge by the time one enrols in a medicine course. But it all depends on the individual, I guess.

I heard MBBS is considered two degrees whereas MD is considered one degree only. Does a MD graduated from Russia can perform surgery in Malaysia?

[orange2388]

yeah.. can someone answer Fudge's question on MD's from russia to perform surgery in malaysia?? i also want to know..

[jay3349]

Hi there.

I think MDs can perform surgery in Malaysia. In fact, one of the local universities also give out MD degrees and not MBBS. I think it's UKM.

This is what I think. I stand corrected.

Sanjay

[uglyducklai]

Hi there.

I think MDs can perform surgery in Malaysia. In fact, one of the local universities also give out MD degrees and not MBBS. I think it's UKM.

This is what I think. I stand corrected.

Sanjay

MD can perform surgery?????
i aso mess up with this.....
anyone clarify this?

[evening_go_jogging]

do doctors have the opportunity of doing research besides curing people? what kind of research?

where can i find a list of all the fields of specialisation?

[youngyew]

do doctors have the opportunity of doing research besides curing people? what kind of research?

where can i find a list of all the fields of specialisation?
Doctors certainly have the opportunities to conduct researches, but it seems that it's more common overseas compared to Malaysia. Most of my lecturers and professors are researchers as well, and they always have papers published in the famous journals.

The research that they do are quite varied. THere are two main categories, clinical and lab research. For clinical research, you do your studies in a clinical setting i.e. in a hospital / clinic, where you find out the outcome of a particular treatment over the other, the accuracy of a diagnostic method, the risk factor of a particular disease etc. For lab research, basically you stay in lab and work with mice and machines to determine the actual mechanism of a disease or the efficacy of a new drug etc. It might sound boring and whether you like it or not really depends on personal preference.