Form 6: Syllabus too hard and wide?

[zen]

errrrr...............
my sis said that f6 life is very hard compared with matriks, college...
is that true ???
f6 seems to be scary for me now !!!
i juz hope that i could get any scholarships to avoid f6.........
u will know it if u know my sis............like hell......

[youngyew]

errrrr...............
my sis said that f6 life is very hard compared with matriks, college...
is that true ???
f6 seems to be scary for me now !!!
i juz hope that i could get any scholarships to avoid f6.........
u will know it if u know my sis............like hell......
Hi, do locate form-6 related threads under the Education section of ReCom: http://recom.org/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=17

Have a look at the relevant threads. There are at least half a dozen out there.

[WinnieH]

errrrr...............
my sis said that f6 life is very hard compared with matriks, college...
is that true ???
f6 seems to be scary for me now !!!
i juz hope that i could get any scholarships to avoid f6.........
u will know it if u know my sis............like hell......

yes your sis is right. but dont fear form 6. conquer it.

[dvmpt]

f6....ah, i heard lots of stories bout it. wanna hear some? these are a few examples-very tough, must work very hard, my fren's bro studying 18 hours aday.....(exams coming i think), haha...but look on de bright side....so many went thru n conquered f6.
when de walking gets tough,recomers get tougher? haha...such a nice statement....hahaahahaha...!!!

[chenchow]

While Form 6 is tough, it is possible to be successful in it. And to be frank, Form 6 is a good learning ground, for fellow Malaysians to build up their learning skills, to prepare themselves for the future.

I would like to say that it is managable to be studying in Form 6. You would need to work very hard. There is no doubt about that. Do start preparing early. You have 1.5 year to prepare and hence you should try your best to work hard on it.

And to be frank, getting scholarships to study in universities, do not mean an easy way out. I have seen many who are studying at top universities in the world, who have been having 2-4 hours of sleep consistently every day. I myself have gone through 4 pretty tough years in my university life at Cornell University. And I have to say that it is possible to be done. I am not a bookworm, and throughout those 4 years, I have been able to participate in many activities, as well as been pretty active in ReCom.org~! And I am consistently taking about 20+ credit hours. And besides me, there are many others who are able to do this.

It is more the question of whether you are able to look at things positively and work hard towards it. Be positive minded. The tough process will mould you, and you would need to look beyond class works. Do read widely, do participate actively in activities. It is possible, although many might think otherwise. It is not about how long you study, but rather how effective and how efficient you are studying. Do study in group, if you could learn in group, and do help one another out. Do try to understand all the stuff, and not try to memorize. Memorizing would only put those stuff into short-term memory, but what is needed is long-term understanding.

And last but not least, do utilize ReCom as a resource. There are tons of ReComers who have been very successful in their studies, and more importantly, many of them are very active in schools, as well as outside of schools. Lets share and learn together. Do try to ask questions. Do try to help others. The more you help others, the more you would get help from others. Together, we work together towards a better Malaysia.

[WinnieH]

yes i agree with chenchow. nothing is impossible. if those top scorers can score 4.00, why can't it be us? they're made of flesh and blood too, not some robot or being implanted with those microchips.

[bush]

It is good to be optimistic, but one should also be realistic. Not many can score in STPM, you and I both know that it is a fact.

I have two friends, both of them did A-levels and as expected they scored straight As, they are happily pursuing medicine at UNSW and Bham respectively. I asked them whether would they ever had imagined themselves doing medicine if they did STPM. They said 'very unlikely' simply because scoring the AAA or AAAA is too difficult.

We got to admit it, the course specification of certain subjects in STPM are too detailed that at times it becomes irrelevant. Why include topics which may not be relevant to one's tertiary studies? eg circuit theory or electronics section in STPM physics.

[zen]

f6 is hard .......
juz imagine 5@<hidden> books in one subject ....and the duration for one & a half year......

even it will be a big prob. to read and clear all of the facts......
STPM is the third hardest exam in the world !!!

[dvmpt]

I think f6 is a very good choice to mould ourselves. That is the main reason i'm going f6 if i can't secure any scholarship. I will get to know myself better,what my capabilities are,and whether i'm tough enough.

[youngyew]

It is good to be optimistic, but one should also be realistic. Not many can score in STPM, you and I both know that it is a fact.

I have two friends, both of them did A-levels and as expected they scored straight As, they are happily pursuing medicine at UNSW and Bham respectively. I asked them whether would they ever had imagined themselves doing medicine if they did STPM. They said 'very unlikely' simply because scoring the AAA or AAAA is too difficult.

We got to admit it, the course specification of certain subjects in STPM are too detailed that at times it becomes irrelevant. Why include topics which may not be relevant to one's tertiary studies? eg circuit theory or electronics section in STPM physics.
STPM is still very hard, but it has become relatively easier to score in recent years. Back in 1992 there were only 60 straight-A scorers throughout the country; but now we have hundreds. I am not saying that anyone can certainly tackle this challenge, but it's within grasp if you are capable of scoring like 8A in SPM.

As for the extra irrelevant details in STPM syllabus, I used to hear my friends grumble about this kind of thing back in form 5. My friend who aspires to be a lawyer asked me, "Why should we learn calculus if we knew that we were going to study law which has got nothing to do with calculus?"

While I didn't have a good answer at that time, I recently rediscovered a good example to this issue. When I was studying SAM in Malaysia before coming to Melbourne for medicine, we learnt various subjects including maths, physics and chemistry. Among the "irrelevant stuff" that we learnt was statistics, hypothesis testing, null hypothesis, standard deviation, normal distribution and this kind of stuff. At that time, I wondered if it had anything to do at all with those studying medicine.

However, just recently my perception changed when we had an assignment related to epidemiology (a discipline related to finding the relationships between an exposure and a disease by using statistics). We faced relatively less difficulties when it comes to the statistical parts, and I was so thankful that I learnt all those in 1 month compared to some other coursemates who had to learn every concept from scratch in 3 lectures.

My point is, sometimes we all lament that we have to learn unnecessary stuff just to pass our exams. I always share the same sentiment too. However, it's just my belief that whatever extra stuff we learnt, no matter how useless it is at the present, will eventually guide us through our studies, careers and life. No knowledge is useless, I believe.

[bush]

STPM is still very hard, but it has become relatively easier to score in recent years. Back in 1992 there were only 60 straight-A scorers throughout the country; but now we have hundreds. I am not saying that anyone can certainly tackle this challenge, but it's within grasp if you are capable of scoring like 8A in SPM.

As for the extra irrelevant details in STPM syllabus, I used to hear my friends grumble about this kind of thing back in form 5. My friend who aspires to be a lawyer asked me, "Why should we learn calculus if we knew that we were going to study law which has got nothing to do with calculus?"

While I didn't have a good answer at that time, I recently rediscovered a good example to this issue. When I was studying SAM in Malaysia before coming to Melbourne for medicine, we learnt various subjects including maths, physics and chemistry. Among the "irrelevant stuff" that we learnt was statistics, hypothesis testing, null hypothesis, standard deviation, normal distribution and this kind of stuff. At that time, I wondered if it had anything to do at all with those studying medicine.

However, just recently my perception changed when we had an assignment related to epidemiology (a discipline related to finding the relationships between an exposure and a disease by using statistics). We faced relatively less difficulties when it comes to the statistical parts, and I was so thankful that I learnt all those in 1 month compared to some other coursemates who had to learn every concept from scratch in 3 lectures.

My point is, sometimes we all lament that we have to learn unnecessary stuff just to pass our exams. I always share the same sentiment too. However, it's just my belief that whatever extra stuff we learnt, no matter how useless it is at the present, will eventually guide us through our studies, careers and life. No knowledge is useless, I believe.

Too bad you weren't aware of statistics in medicine.

I do agree on what you said but there has to be a limit in it. In medicine, I believe you need to have the basic knowledge of maths, physics, chemistry and biology. Hypothesis testing which you have pointed out is one of the fundamental topics in statistics, thus we ought to learn it.

I also suppose that you did't learn electronics and circuit theory in your SAM, did you?

That is precisely my point, STPM makes a student learn everything, stuff that are essential, not essential, relevant, not relevant etc. All in all, every damn thing under the sun.

Analogously, the pre-u exams are like a buffet, STPM is the malaysian patron whereas A-levels and all are foreign patrons. As you already know, the typical malaysian will take everything and as if that is not enough, the malaysian will fill his portion as high as a mountain. Cpnversely, the foreign customers will take everything but will only take what is necessary. Get the point?

[kevinkhoo1986]

STPM is still very hard, but it has become relatively easier to score in recent years. Back in 1992 there were only 60 straight-A scorers throughout the country; but now we have hundreds. I am not saying that anyone can certainly tackle this challenge, but it's within grasp if you are capable of scoring like 8A in SPM.



But back in 1992, how many students that choose to further their study in F6? If i am not mistaken, back then there were just a few thousands students who took STPM. But right now the number have increase to about 75,000 students for STPM 2005, and it's still increasing tremendously for this pass few years. So by having a few hundreds straight A students for STPM 2005 (400++???) seems quite justify for me right? You can't expect us to have ONLY 60 straight A students among 75000 2005 STPMer. If that is the case, that would be the toughest examination in the world. So i would said that the standard is still the same. Furthermore they have to secure some place for the matrix students as well. But as for SPM, i agree that the standard has been dropping....

[youngyew]

STPM is still very hard, but it has become relatively easier to score in recent years. Back in 1992 there were only 60 straight-A scorers throughout the country; but now we have hundreds. I am not saying that anyone can certainly tackle this challenge, but it's within grasp if you are capable of scoring like 8A in SPM.

As for the extra irrelevant details in STPM syllabus, I used to hear my friends grumble about this kind of thing back in form 5. My friend who aspires to be a lawyer asked me, "Why should we learn calculus if we knew that we were going to study law which has got nothing to do with calculus?"

While I didn't have a good answer at that time, I recently rediscovered a good example to this issue. When I was studying SAM in Malaysia before coming to Melbourne for medicine, we learnt various subjects including maths, physics and chemistry. Among the "irrelevant stuff" that we learnt was statistics, hypothesis testing, null hypothesis, standard deviation, normal distribution and this kind of stuff. At that time, I wondered if it had anything to do at all with those studying medicine.

However, just recently my perception changed when we had an assignment related to epidemiology (a discipline related to finding the relationships between an exposure and a disease by using statistics). We faced relatively less difficulties when it comes to the statistical parts, and I was so thankful that I learnt all those in 1 month compared to some other coursemates who had to learn every concept from scratch in 3 lectures.

My point is, sometimes we all lament that we have to learn unnecessary stuff just to pass our exams. I always share the same sentiment too. However, it's just my belief that whatever extra stuff we learnt, no matter how useless it is at the present, will eventually guide us through our studies, careers and life. No knowledge is useless, I believe.

Too bad you weren't aware of statistics in medicine.

I do agree on what you said but there has to be a limit in it. In medicine, I believe you need to have the basic knowledge of maths, physics, chemistry and biology. Hypothesis testing which you have pointed out is one of the fundamental topics in statistics, thus we ought to learn it.

I also suppose that you did't learn electronics and circuit theory in your SAM, did you?

That is precisely my point, STPM makes a student learn everything, stuff that are essential, not essential, relevant, not relevant etc. All in all, every damn thing under the sun.

Analogously, the pre-u exams are like a buffet, STPM is the malaysian patron whereas A-levels and all are foreign patrons. As you already know, the typical malaysian will take everything and as if that is not enough, the malaysian will fill his portion as high as a mountain. Cpnversely, the foreign customers will take everything but will only take what is necessary. Get the point?
You sounded a bit upset, especially at the first and the last sentence. If you were disturbed by my post / viewpoint, I apologise as I just intended to give an alternative perspective with regards to the "irrelevant stuff" issue, not to rebuke you. If that proved provocative to you, I am terribly sorry.

I was aware of the involvement of statistics in medicine, it's only that I didn't know to what extent is its importance. I am sorry I gave the wrong impression in my post. I can say humbly that I can at least know that maths and statistics are involved in medicine, given my background in mathematics and medicine.

I didn't learn electronic circuit and electronics in SAM, but I did learn about laser discs, fractals, complex numbers, vector proof, bauxite, iron refinement etc, all of which are not related to medicine.

I am not trying to say that everything in STPM is good and essential to be learnt, I do agree that if one goes through everything in the course, one ought to feel that it's a waste of time and an excruciating burden (like the lawyer example I gave in my previous post). However, the only point I wanted to convey is that, while the things you learn today may be irrelevant to the course you are pursuing, it's still a good thing to have a grounding on more scientific disciplines as multi-dimensional knowledge is an advantage for anyone in the future. While I don't mean that doctors should know how to appreciate Gothic architecture or lawyers should know the treatment course of gastric ulcer; I do think it's good to have doctors know what is Gothic architecture and lawyers know what is gastric ulcer.

But back in 1992, how many students that choose to further their study in F6? If i am not mistaken, back then there were just a few thousands students who took STPM. But right now the number have increase to about 75,000 students for STPM 2005, and it's still increasing tremendously for this pass few years. So by having a few hundreds straight A students for STPM 2005 (400++???) seems quite justify for me right? You can't expect us to have ONLY 60 straight A students among 75000 2005 STPMer. If that is the case, that would be the toughest examination in the world. So i would said that the standard is still the same. Furthermore they have to secure some place for the matrix students as well. But as for SPM, i agree that the standard has been dropping....
Sorry I can't provide the exact statistics (perhaps chenchow or other more well-informed recommers can give you), but I am fairly confident that the standard has dropped year by year. I myself studied form 6 for a few months, and the school teachers and tuition teachers did share their comments about the topics being discarded and standard dropping. While I am not authoritative in giving such comment, I do believe that those who have taught STPM for more than 10 years know their stuff.

As for the number of students, again I don't have the statistics. I am not aware of the number of candidates increasing, in fact I thought it might have decreased due to the available choices today such as colleges, a-levels, diploma courses etc. The other reason I made the comparison of 1992 with today is that in my school, there was only one student with straight A's in 1992 but about 20 students with four flat today. And the number of f6 students in my school hasn't increased by 20-fold.

Since my evidences are mainly anecdotal and not population-based, I stand corrected if I am indeed wrong.

[kevinkhoo1986]

Sorry I can't provide the exact statistics (perhaps chenchow or other more well-informed recommers can give you), but I am fairly confident that the standard has dropped year by year. I myself studied form 6 for a few months, and the school teachers and tuition teachers did share their comments about the topics being discarded and standard dropping. While I am not authoritative in giving such comment, I do believe that those who have taught STPM for more than 10 years know their stuff.

As for the number of students, again I don't have the statistics. I am not aware of the number of candidates increasing, in fact I thought it might have decreased due to the available choices today such as colleges, a-levels, diploma courses etc. The other reason I made the comparison of 1992 with today is that in my school, there was only one student with straight A's in 1992 but about 20 students with four flat today. And the number of f6 students in my school hasn't increased by 20-fold.

Since my evidences are mainly anecdotal and not population-based, I stand corrected if I am indeed wrong.

Well, same thing here, i could not find the statistic for 1992 as it was about 14 years ago. But i could provide you the STPM 2004 statistics from MPM

stpm 2004
http://www.mpm.edu.my/main.php?Content=vertsections&SubVertSectionID=27&VertSectionID=25&CurLocation=25&IID=&Page=1

stpm 2005
http://besonline.rtm.net.my/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=54169&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

So the number of candidates have increased to about 24% from 2004(67,652) to 2005(81,142) in just a year. I think it is due to the fact that the government has changed the medium of instruction to english and make it easier to gain admission into F6. Anyway i do agree that certain topic has been removed from the current syllabus. But the percentage of students who managed to score in all subjects are still the same with the exception of general election year...

[bush]

You sounded a bit upset, especially at the first and the last sentence. If you were disturbed by my post / viewpoint, I apologise as I just intended to give an alternative perspective with regards to the "irrelevant stuff" issue, not to rebuke you. If that proved provocative to you, I am terribly sorry.

I was aware of the involvement of statistics in medicine, it's only that I didn't know to what extent is its importance. I am sorry I gave the wrong impression in my post. I can say humbly that I can at least know that maths and statistics are involved in medicine, given my background in mathematics and medicine.

I didn't learn electronic circuit and electronics in SAM, but I did learn about laser discs, fractals, complex numbers, vector proof, bauxite, iron refinement etc, all of which are not related to medicine.

I am not trying to say that everything in STPM is good and essential to be learnt, I do agree that if one goes through everything in the course, one ought to feel that it's a waste of time and an excruciating burden (like the lawyer example I gave in my previous post). However, the only point I wanted to convey is that, while the things you learn today may be irrelevant to the course you are pursuing, it's still a good thing to have a grounding on more scientific disciplines as multi-dimensional knowledge is an advantage for anyone in the future. While I don't mean that doctors should know how to appreciate Gothic architecture or lawyers should know the treatment course of gastric ulcer; I do think it's good to have doctors know what is Gothic architecture and lawyers know what is gastric ulcer.

No worries.

We do agree that it is ok if one learns a little bit of everything, but quite useless to go in-depth in everything,don't we?

[Pisanggoreng]

i'll be goin f6 if i can't secure any scholarships, wif stpm...i can go local Us which are much more cheaper than overseas....if we choose to go private colleges, we'll close any opportunity to study in local Us.....so how???? i still can't decide..i already received offer to study A levels for free...but not sure whether to accept it or not....

I intend to study overseas but financial budget is quite a problem for me as i'm from a middle class family..wat can i do?...are there any scholarships for stpm leavers from JPA????

[Caprio]

I agree whole-heartedly that the syllabus for form6 is indeed too wide, to the extent it is useless, from my point of view. Let's don't talk about the sciences, let's talk about the General Studies. We are obliged to draw graph manually(using hand), which I think it is not beneficial in our studies. Furthermore, we need to colour it. I think this part is introduced is just to test our time management skill during the exam.

Heard that there is news to revamp the form6 syllabus soon. Hope that the revamped form6 education will be made more relevant.

[youngyew]

After having more experience with the other country's (in particular, Australia) higher education, I admit that it's indeed better to have more relevant information as compared to including hard stuff for the sake of making the paper challenging. To have a student acing the most difficult exam but only to have it forgotten and unused after the exam, is rather meaningless.

[kaixin90]

While Form 6 is tough, it is possible to be successful in it. And to be frank, Form 6 is a good learning ground, for fellow Malaysians to build up their learning skills, to prepare themselves for the future.

I would like to say that it is managable to be studying in Form 6. You would need to work very hard. There is no doubt about that. Do start preparing early. You have 1.5 year to prepare and hence you should try your best to work hard on it.

And to be frank, getting scholarships to study in universities, do not mean an easy way out. I have seen many who are studying at top universities in the world, who have been having 2-4 hours of sleep consistently every day. I myself have gone through 4 pretty tough years in my university life at Cornell University. And I have to say that it is possible to be done. I am not a bookworm, and throughout those 4 years, I have been able to participate in many activities, as well as been pretty active in ReCom.org~! And I am consistently taking about 20+ credit hours. And besides me, there are many others who are able to do this.

It is more the question of whether you are able to look at things positively and work hard towards it. Be positive minded. The tough process will mould you, and you would need to look beyond class works. Do read widely, do participate actively in activities. It is possible, although many might think otherwise. It is not about how long you study, but rather how effective and how efficient you are studying. Do study in group, if you could learn in group, and do help one another out. Do try to understand all the stuff, and not try to memorize. Memorizing would only put those stuff into short-term memory, but what is needed is long-term understanding.

And last but not least, do utilize ReCom as a resource. There are tons of ReComers who have been very successful in their studies, and more importantly, many of them are very active in schools, as well as outside of schools. Lets share and learn together. Do try to ask questions. Do try to help others. The more you help others, the more you would get help from others. Together, we work together towards a better Malaysia.


hmm.. is it harder to go overseas with stpm than a levels?

[capablanca]

Depending on where you go. But most universities overseas treat them as equal. The only reason you may think it is harder to go overseas with STPM because it waste a lot of time applying with STPM since you will have gap period between applying and admitting into universities since STPM time and A-level time period are different. So, most people don't like to apply with STPM.

[starlemon]

is form 6 syllabus almost same with A level..?
I didnt have A level books now...so i just read up form 6 books like bio ,che and phy..
hoping to get a clear distinguish between the syllabus of A level and Form 6..

[Sillyboy]

is form 6 syllabus almost same with A level..?
I didnt have A level books now...so i just read up form 6 books like bio ,che and phy..
hoping to get a clear distinguish between the syllabus of A level and Form 6..

No. The gap between the two is quite wide and A level is considerably easier. Go to their website and download the specifications if you need more information regarding the syllabus.

[Vaan]

DON'T GO FORM 6 UNLESS YOU REALLY HAVE NO CHOICE. Coz from what I have heard, you make one small and simple mistake,everything gone. Going to Form 6 is like making a high probability of 'Educational Suicide Decision'.

[HimoYoto]

I agree with youngyew...although that something we learned have nothing to do with what we study like study calculus which does not need in law(youngyew said)...but the more thing we study the more we learn...sometime the extra thing we learn will help you...who knows???right??so it is no harm we learn more things than other people...the more we learn the more advantages we get,right??And basically..maths is important in our daily life and also in works...sometime we need to use it...

[vseehua]

I agree with youngyew...although that something we learned have nothing to do with what we study like study calculus which does not need in law(youngyew said)...but the more thing we study the more we learn...sometime the extra thing we learn will help you...who knows???right??so it is no harm we learn more things than other people...the more we learn the more advantages we get,right??And basically..maths is important in our daily life and also in works...sometime we need to use it...
I am sure the skill of remembering things down to the exact letter can help us remember the car plate number when we get robbed
/sarcasm

[Xianst]

just nice la i think... cos in the end u will be able to get an A with 70% ...

[HimoYoto]

Haha..sure..if you work hard enough..so regret i didn't work hard during form 5....so regret...

[Sillyboy]

Haha..sure..if you work hard enough..so regret i didn't work hard during form 5....so regret...

Not too late to mend your problems now.

[vseehua]

Not too late to mend your problems now.
Nope... start working now

[HimoYoto]

ya,i'm going to be very hardworking when i go form 6....but i still haven't solve my problem yet....about choosing stream....haizzz

[vseehua]

ya,i'm going to be very hardworking when i go form 6....but i still haven't solve my problem yet....about choosing stream....haizzzJust choose what you like better. Still not sure what you like better you say? Go and research more about them, and make it clear to yourself...

[HimoYoto]

Ya,I'm searching right now...in the net .....:) to make myself more clear.....

[starlemon]

If i am going to form 6 , i would choose biology..
because physics is sth so abstract to me.
moreover, biology is kinda interesting.
Himoyoto:just choose watever u interested in..seek ur teacher advice...or just browse through form 6 books..see whether u can manage to read up and score well in the syllabus or not.
some say that form 6 is really tough...and it is indeed a fact!

[HimoYoto]

why physics is so abstract to you???too lot of concept????i like calculation...physics is more to calculation right??not bio right???you said if u r going form 6...so thats mean u didn't study form 6???:)

[starlemon]

why physics is so abstract to you???too lot of concept????i like calculation...physics is more to calculation right??not bio right???you said if u r going form 6...so thats mean u didn't study form 6???:)

yea...phy of course is more on calculation..and sometime the calculation is quite out of question..for exp, the gravitational acceleration is always 9.8..some cases would consider the gravitational accerelation as 10.so if u ask why must 10 or 9.8 ? the answer is vast and sometime inexplainable.tat is y i consider phy as abstract.
not say that i am not going to form 6..but I would try to avoid form 6 as well.

[sugarspice]

If i am going to form 6 , i would choose biology..
because physics is sth so abstract to me.
moreover, biology is kinda interesting.


I am more interested in Bio but I find it hard when it comes to explaining. Very often I will miss out a few important keywords. And my Bio got A2 in SPM.:cry Therefore I feel I am not a 'Bio person'.

Bio is all about facts facts facts and I have to memorize like a robot...

Should go for physics. Hmm...

But I do not favour every chapters in physics, like I hate electric, electronics....

haiz...still very undecided...

[HimoYoto]

yea...phy of course is more on calculation..and sometime the calculation is quite out of question..for exp, the gravitational acceleration is always 9.8..some cases would consider the gravitational accerelation as 10.so if u ask why must 10 or 9.8 ? the answer is vast and sometime inexplainable.tat is y i consider phy as abstract.
not say that i am not going to form 6..but I would try to avoid form 6 as well.

oh,i see.... many ppl said that form 6 is very tough and hard...so y not i try..cause i feel that form 6 is so challenging and will be excited about that....and one of my cousin study form 6 b4...although she didn't get a good result but she said she never regret bout study form 6...so this make me feel that form 6 more intresting....haha...and STPM is the 3rd hardest exam so I like to try too....with all of my effort..:))

I am more interested in Bio but I find it hard when it comes to explaining. Very often I will miss out a few important keywords. And my Bio got A2 in SPM.:cry Therefore I feel I am not a 'Bio person'.

Bio is all about facts facts facts and I have to memorize like a robot...

Should go for physics. Hmm...

But I do not favour every chapters in physics, like I hate electric, electronics....

haiz...still very undecided...

So,You are a form 5 leaver too????ya,bio make me feel like...memorising...must have the key words or else no marks...y not use our own words to elaborate??y must key words??and in spm bio is quite hard to score A1...u get A2 is very good already...haha...:amuse

[sugarspice]

So,You are a form 5 leaver too????ya,bio make me feel like...memorising...must have the key words or else no marks...y not use our own words to elaborate??y must key words??and in spm bio is quite hard to score A1...u get A2 is very good already...haha...:amuse

Yup, SPM 2007 leaver.

Frankly I like Bio because i want to learn more knowledge to improve my own and everyone's health. So, I am particularly interested in nutrition. Those like genetics I never like. Ecosystem stuff even worse. I suppose this is the thing that led me to getting an A2 in Bio - SPM 2007 / Bio paper 2 / Section B and C were essay questions on ecosystem. :nuts And I guess I did it rather badly. I didn't study much on that as this is a dry topic to me. And I wish to study dermatology too. I want to improve my skin condition of my face - evade all the little bumps and excessive sebum. And with the knowledge I can tell whether the trained dermatologists in skin care centres like New York or Leanard Drake are saying the truth. hehehe...The rest of Bio I don't like liao.

So, I am going for Physics. Will be meeting loads of boys, tho. :notrust

[Sillyboy]

I am more interested in Bio but I find it hard when it comes to explaining. Very often I will miss out a few important keywords. And my Bio got A2 in SPM.:cry Therefore I feel I am not a 'Bio person'.

Bio is all about facts facts facts and I have to memorize like a robot...

Should go for physics. Hmm...

But I do not favour every chapters in physics, like I hate electric, electronics....

haiz...still very undecided...

!!! Are you prepared for Form 6 then?? There are lots of chapters on the topics highlighted. I did form 6 only 2 weeks and I wanted out!

[HimoYoto]

Yup, SPM 2007 leaver.

Frankly I like Bio because i want to learn more knowledge to improve my own and everyone's health. So, I am particularly interested in nutrition. Those like genetics I never like. Ecosystem stuff even worse. I suppose this is the thing that led me to getting an A2 in Bio - SPM 2007 / Bio paper 2 / Section B and C were essay questions on ecosystem. :nuts And I guess I did it rather badly. I didn't study much on that as this is a dry topic to me. And I wish to study dermatology too. I want to improve my skin condition of my face - evade all the little bumps and excessive sebum. And with the knowledge I can tell whether the trained dermatologists in skin care centres like New York or Leanard Drake are saying the truth. hehehe...The rest of Bio I don't like liao.

So, I am going for Physics. Will be meeting loads of boys, tho. :notrust

Y u going to physics.???u sound like u like biology,isn't it??YA,the ecosystem...haha..i simply write whatever i know...i get a b4...haha..not bad alr i think. cause i alw have last minute study .......i think u should take biology...since u like it so much....maybe u will feel more intresting with form 6 topics...anyway..which state u from??:))

!!! Are you prepared for Form 6 then?? There are lots of chapters on the topics highlighted. I did form 6 only 2 weeks and I wanted out!

so r u still in form 6 then????:wink

[passer-by]

From 6 is the very last place I want to go and also most probably is the place that I will end up in since I can't really afford to go to college.

I guess when one takes form 6 ,one will aim at getting into IPTA, right? If other pre-u course like A-level is provided free just like form 6, I don't think there will be so many people taking up form 6. It's too much at stake, that's what I personally think.
Not only Form 6 is indeed tough. Even with pretty good results, let's say 3.8 something, there's still no gueranttee that we will get our first choice when applying for IPTA, they will decide which course we will enrol in , then what's the point taking such high risk?

[starlemon]

No. The gap between the two is quite wide and A level is considerably easier. Go to their website and download the specifications if you need more information regarding the syllabus.

Kindly get me the links of form 6 and A level syllabus link..
i really have no idea about both the syllabus...Why A level syllabus is easier than form 6?
I thought our malaysian examinations will not that difficult...but it is out of my thought that the STPM seem harder than A level..

[sugarspice]

!!! Are you prepared for Form 6 then?? There are lots of chapters on the topics highlighted. I did form 6 only 2 weeks and I wanted out!

oh, my mom has been pestering me to read up the Form 6 Physics and Bio text books but I flipped through and never really read the contents...lol....There are really sooooo many topic on E&E? Hrm....I have to think twice then. I will read it up. Thanks, anyway.

Y u going to physics.???u sound like u like biology,isn't it??YA,the ecosystem...haha..i simply write whatever i know...i get a b4...haha..not bad alr i think. cause i alw have last minute study .......i think u should take biology...since u like it so much....maybe u will feel more intresting with form 6 topics...anyway..which state u from??:))



so r u still in form 6 then????:wink

Getting an A2 in SPM BIO really changed my direction. Like JPA, before the SPM results were out I wanted Biotech, but realizing that I have just an A2 for BIO, i applied for engineering instead.

I am lazy to memorize the bio facts....when I look at it I wanna sleep d...and in form 6 bio we need to do surgery on rats, dead rats....and catch butterflies and duno do what...I find myself still very poor in explaining. That's what I am afraid of if I choose Bio stream.

hrm, I am from Penang. Jit Sin High.

I tot sillyboy is a BNM or JPA scholar?

[GreenTea]

*sigh* really having a hard time here, i'm one of the spm 2007 leaver,i wanted to take form six if i fail to secure jpa scholarship,when i told my friend about form six,they will gave me that:huh look..only a handful of them will opt for f6 and most of them will go for coll cos they told me that f6 is a waste of time and really really tough..not worth of taking the risk

Can anyone told me is it better to take bio or physics? and is it risky to take biology? what can we do with biology? medicine? pharmacy? dentistry? biotech?.....very limited compared to physics

I want a high paying job with wide market too!! so which one should i choose?:))

[youngyew]

Hi guys, sorry to be a spoilsport, but for the ease of others in finding information, kindly leave this thread for its intended discussion (i.e. discussion of difficulty of Form 6 syllabus); while for other general discussion, kindly participate in the general form 6 discussion:

http://recom.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4608

Thanks and sorry for the inconvenience!