Research essay: Is America winning the war on terror?

[hungwei]

Is it justified?
The real reason behind this war on terror crap by the US and her allies?
Effects?
How should the war be fought? (diplomatic/military)

Need your opinion guys. Hope you can help me. Thanx!

[hungwei]

Is it justified?
The real reason behind this war on terror crap by the US and her allies?
Effects?
How should the war be fought? (diplomatic/military)

Need your opinion guys. Hope you can help me. Thanx!

[wawa]

War on terrorism is justified as terrorism hurts innocent people. Terrorism injects fear in everybody and injures civilians, not the army nor the people who make any deciscions.
However, the war on terrorism in Iraq is not, in my eyes, truly justified. They did it for oil, political mileage and out of ignorance.
Everyone's hurting as a result.
A war should only be fought only when all other means is exhausted. A war is a lose-lose solution, nobody's a winner.
:wink:

[wawa]

War on terrorism is justified as terrorism hurts innocent people. Terrorism injects fear in everybody and injures civilians, not the army nor the people who make any deciscions.
However, the war on terrorism in Iraq is not, in my eyes, truly justified. They did it for oil, political mileage and out of ignorance.
Everyone's hurting as a result.
A war should only be fought only when all other means is exhausted. A war is a lose-lose solution, nobody's a winner.
:wink:

[Thirdshifter]

War on terror? When did somebody declared a war on terror? yeah what about War on drugs?

[Thirdshifter]

War on terror? When did somebody declared a war on terror? yeah what about War on drugs?

Read articles in www.foreignaffairs.org. Foreign Affairs is a well-respected academic journal in American foreign policy.

Read articles in www.foreignaffairs.org. Foreign Affairs is a well-respected academic journal in American foreign policy.

[hungwei]

I'll be taking the "not-justified" stand, btw. The purpose of my essay will be to convince other ppl that the war on terrorism by American definition is not justified.

[hungwei]

I'll be taking the "not-justified" stand, btw. The purpose of my essay will be to convince other ppl that the war on terrorism by American definition is not justified.

We'll be pleased to read your essay. Be sure to carefully define what you mean by "not justified" (is it strategically unsound for America, is it bad of the world as a whole, or is it bad for just some parts of the region?)

We'll be pleased to read your essay. Be sure to carefully define what you mean by "not justified" (is it strategically unsound for America, is it bad of the world as a whole, or is it bad for just some parts of the region?)

[littlebigone]

We'll be pleased to read your essay. Be sure to carefully define what you mean by "not justified" (is it strategically unsound for America, is it bad of the world as a whole, or is it bad for just some parts of the region?)

or is it just not the right thing to do

[littlebigone]

We'll be pleased to read your essay. Be sure to carefully define what you mean by "not justified" (is it strategically unsound for America, is it bad of the world as a whole, or is it bad for just some parts of the region?)

or is it just not the right thing to do

[__earth]

just to say that the thread's question doesnt have two different answers.

it should have been diplomatically instead of politically. Political war could encompass real war.

[__earth]

just to say that the thread's question doesnt have two different answers.

it should have been diplomatically instead of politically. Political war could encompass real war.

[soul_out]

Came across the news in BBC tonite regarding the increasing number of British Muslim joining the Jihad, a holy war by Muslim(against non-believer, i got the meaning from Oxford Dictionary, but i would like to know the real meaning of Jihad from Koran).

Are those who fighthing for Jihad nowadays consider as terrorist? As a Malaysian Muslim, how do you guys feel about it?

[soul_out]

Came across the news in BBC tonite regarding the increasing number of British Muslim joining the Jihad, a holy war by Muslim(against non-believer, i got the meaning from Oxford Dictionary, but i would like to know the real meaning of Jihad from Koran).

Are those who fighthing for Jihad nowadays consider as terrorist? As a Malaysian Muslim, how do you guys feel about it?

[hungwei]

I have just narrowed down my topic to "Is America winning the war on terror?" on advice by my lecturer.

[hungwei]

I have just narrowed down my topic to "Is America winning the war on terror?" on advice by my lecturer.

[wawa]

They aren't getting to the root of the problem yet....

[wawa]

They aren't getting to the root of the problem yet....

[chiunlin]

Is America winning the war on terror?

IMHO, definitely not. US knows about the exact causes, but chose to ignore it. As long as no effort is made to tackle the root, terrorism will always exist no matter how much money is allocated to fight it.

[chiunlin]

Is America winning the war on terror?

IMHO, definitely not. US knows about the exact causes, but chose to ignore it. As long as no effort is made to tackle the root, terrorism will always exist no matter how much money is allocated to fight it.

[__earth]

what's the root?

[__earth]

what's the root?

[hungwei]

I supposed that the prime motive for terror attacks is the Palestinian land issue with Israel. Israel is actually the real terrorist, killing innocent victims by hundreds but US refuse to recognize this fact. In fact, US and Israel seemed to care less about resolving the dispute, cancelling peace talks each time Israel is attacked. The majority of the world, particularly extremist, sees this as an act of injustice.

I could be wrong, so please get your opinions forwarded.

[hungwei]

I supposed that the prime motive for terror attacks is the Palestinian land issue with Israel. Israel is actually the real terrorist, killing innocent victims by hundreds but US refuse to recognize this fact. In fact, US and Israel seemed to care less about resolving the dispute, cancelling peace talks each time Israel is attacked. The majority of the world, particularly extremist, sees this as an act of injustice.

I could be wrong, so please get your opinions forwarded.

[littlebigone]

i wonder what would happen if US suddenly gives Israel like an ultimatum. Then Israel refuses so US has to do an Iraq on them.

Will that solve terrorist problems?

[littlebigone]

i wonder what would happen if US suddenly gives Israel like an ultimatum. Then Israel refuses so US has to do an Iraq on them.

Will that solve terrorist problems?

I supposed that the prime motive for terror attacks is the Palestinian land issue with Israel. Israel is actually the real terrorist, killing innocent victims by hundreds but US refuse to recognize this fact. In fact, US and Israel seemed to care less about resolving the dispute, cancelling peace talks each time Israel is attacked. The majority of the world, particularly extremist, sees this as an act of injustice.

I could be wrong, so please get your opinions forwarded.

It is important to distinguish between the Palestinian terrorists groups and al-Qaeda. The Palestinian terrorist fight for their land and to certain extent (and depending on the group) the destruction of Israel.

al-Qaeda, on the other hand, will continue to launch their "jihad" even if the Israel-Palestine issue is resolved peacefully. If you look carefully at their declared goals (to kill all non-Muslims and Muslims that do not practice the kind of Islam they preach) and their past history (fighting the Soviets in Afganistan etc.), they will always have issues to continue their fight/terrorism - unless of course the whole world's population submit to their version of Islam.

Therefore, to claim that the major cause of the current terrorism by al-Qaeda is due to the Israel-Palestinian conflict is plain wrong. Even during the Clinton administration (when the US government tried pretty hard to resolve the conflict that resulted in a period of peace), al-Qaeda continues to strike with its terror machinery in Africa and Yemen.

I supposed that the prime motive for terror attacks is the Palestinian land issue with Israel. Israel is actually the real terrorist, killing innocent victims by hundreds but US refuse to recognize this fact. In fact, US and Israel seemed to care less about resolving the dispute, cancelling peace talks each time Israel is attacked. The majority of the world, particularly extremist, sees this as an act of injustice.

I could be wrong, so please get your opinions forwarded.

It is important to distinguish between the Palestinian terrorists groups and al-Qaeda. The Palestinian terrorist fight for their land and to certain extent (and depending on the group) the destruction of Israel.

al-Qaeda, on the other hand, will continue to launch their "jihad" even if the Israel-Palestine issue is resolved peacefully. If you look carefully at their declared goals (to kill all non-Muslims and Muslims that do not practice the kind of Islam they preach) and their past history (fighting the Soviets in Afganistan etc.), they will always have issues to continue their fight/terrorism - unless of course the whole world's population submit to their version of Islam.

Therefore, to claim that the major cause of the current terrorism by al-Qaeda is due to the Israel-Palestinian conflict is plain wrong. Even during the Clinton administration (when the US government tried pretty hard to resolve the conflict that resulted in a period of peace), al-Qaeda continues to strike with its terror machinery in Africa and Yemen.

[naturesimple]

actually this war is the same thing happened during the sudden attack to pearl harbour. the real loser in that war is actually japan! why? attacks like that will result in raising up american. and this is the factor of america set 2 bombs in nagasaki n .....forgot.

decision in attacking israel there only bring more wars in future.except they kill all even a single terrorist.

[zAiTsEv]

u.s. is gaining nothing from the war on iraq. the people has lost confidence in bush's administration. foreign relations has also been ruined. u.s. needs a modest president who puts more emphasis on domestic issues. support kerry is my point. maybe west point should include sun tzu's art of war in their syllabus. the u.s. army really needs to know how to finish a war swiftly with minimal casualties.

[zAiTsEv]

is utm skudai, johor a breeding ground 4 terrorists? i was shocked that 3 ji members were actually ex-lecturers from utm! 1 is a bomb expert while another is a robotics expert. impressive?

[__earth]

maybe west point should include sun tzu's art of war in their syllabus. the u.s. army really needs to know how to finish a war swiftly with minimal casualties.

you think you could do a better job than the generals in Iraq?

cmon. though i sure sun tzu manual is great, but im sure the generals took that into consideration. and if you realized, the actual invasion was amazingly swift.

[zAiTsEv]

and if you realized, the actual invasion was amazingly swift.

it seems that u don't get what i mean. swift means swift invasion & withdraw. the current death toll of the u.s. army has surpassed 600 people & the morale of the army has dropped 2 a very low point. suicide cases are reported everyday. besides that, they may have "won" the war, but they have lost the heart of people worldwide.

[__earth]

and if you realized, the actual invasion was amazingly swift.

it seems that u don't get what i mean. swift means swift invasion & withdraw.

no. instead, perhaps its you that don't get the political consequences.

think about it. it took 6 months to capture saddam. imagine what would happened if the US had shock and awe and retreat?

more, imagine what the kurds would do. consider what turkey would have done to prevent a kurdish republic. consider the shiite vs the sunni. consider what Iran will do to protect the shiite. and consider what would the other neighboring Arab countries do to protect the sunni had Iran interfered.

finally, imagine the oil price shock.

the foul water might as well split out off the cup. It is only right for the US to invade and stay for a indefinate amount of time even if the people oppose it.

and wouldn't that give more bullets to the anti-war movement?

Trust me, Sun Tzu knew nothing about Iraq political atmosphere.

[jagganatha]

They indeed have not but they are trying their level best to..I jus hope innocent lives don fall victim.. :cry: :cry:

[zAiTsEv]

of coz sun tzu knew nothin about the war of iraq. what i'm tryin 2 say is the strategies in sun tzu's art of war can be implemented provided that it is modified 2 suit the current situation.

[yekban81]

is utm skudai, johor a breeding ground 4 terrorists? i was shocked that 3 ji members were actually ex-lecturers from utm! 1 is a bomb expert while another is a robotics expert. impressive?

They are disgrace to UTM. As far as I know, they are already sacked from their position in UTM.

[chiunlin]

From what I know, one of the commanding generals that ran the iraq war is an expert on Sun Tzu's Art of War. Correct me if I'm wrong. And as far as the war is concerned, he did the right thing, bribing the military official into a no-fight stance especially in Baghdad.

[__earth]

of coz sun tzu knew nothin about the war of iraq. what i'm tryin 2 say is the strategies in sun tzu's art of war can be implemented provided that it is modified 2 suit the current situation.

indeed. and im sure general franks considered that too.

and give those in the military some credit. they know what they are doing. and sun tzu is not the only expert out there.

there are tons of usable war tactics and philosophies out there.

there was nelson, one of the greatest navy admiral. there were rommel and a few others nazi generals that revolutionized tank warfare. there was mcarthur that commanded the pacific war theater.

[violet1403]

Came across the news in BBC tonite regarding the increasing number of British Muslim joining the Jihad, a holy war by Muslim(against non-believer, i got the meaning from Oxford Dictionary, but i would like to know the real meaning of Jihad from Koran).

Are those who fighthing for Jihad nowadays consider as terrorist? As a Malaysian Muslim, how do you guys feel about it?

Jihad according to Koran ( or in arabic, Al-Quran ), means "to fight".
and his definition is as general as general can be. it does not mean to fight against people, or non-believer, it does not say anything about violence whatsoever.

As a Malaysian Muslim, personally, for me Jihad means "to fight against bad desires".
and this also does not mean only sexual desire. it refers to all types of desires that will lead to bad things. desires to hate people, to call names, to indulge in killing spree..

however, the definition of Jihad has been interpreted in so many ways, according to different types of Muslims, influenced by their culture and way of life.

IMHO, i could never judge why terrorists do the things they do. as, i can never judge why certain people do certain things. although my religion has ruled out clear guidelines that Islam is not a violent religion, and in fact the meaning of word "Islam" itself is "peace", circumstances in the world nowadays, their sufferings, their fears and pain that could never be fully understood by us, has led them to decide to take the violent path.