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white2020
05-03-2007, 02:44 PM
hi...er about the "sijil berhenti sekolah"...do we need to post it when we apply something??

cause almost(probably all) the things i m appling now dont ask for that ....

thanks for replying me

sue89
05-03-2007, 03:17 PM
I don't think so...I know I didn't...

white2020
05-03-2007, 03:29 PM
o....that means if we dont send that sijil also can de la??will not affect anything 1 right??

or...i heard someone said that it is a document that is optional...

stupidboy
05-03-2007, 03:44 PM
if i wanna post it together with my sijil, is it ok?
actualy sijil berhenti sekolah is useless but in mine there is written my merit points, so is it ok to include?

yhc
05-03-2007, 05:24 PM
i think it is ok to include that..no harm i think...but think that it is not compulsory to include that when we apply...=))

sun90
06-03-2007, 12:54 AM
hi!
i think sijil berhenti sekolah is needed...anyway i am not sure about it...
by the way...can someone tell me which else of certificates that i should post?
what i know is those cca certs only...
if i participated in a certain competition and i didn't get any prize but just a participation cert, is that needed during scholarship application?
how about participation cert in out-of-school activities such as choral festival, penang bridge run(forget what it called) and all the PEKA and aural test(in bi and bm) certs?do we need to post it when applying scholarship?

thanks for help...

stupidboy
06-03-2007, 02:15 PM
PEKA and aurals are useless but the others you may include.
i don't even think there are certs for PEKA and aurals.

andrewlza
06-03-2007, 02:59 PM
i believe you only need it for public universities.

stupidboy
06-03-2007, 04:02 PM
no, you don't need it at all.
it is useless.

white2020
06-03-2007, 04:24 PM
then....about the "testimonial"....how we can get it??from school??

if i already get it...should i post it??

izzit will affect our application??

thanks again....

studioworks
06-03-2007, 07:35 PM
then....about the "testimonial"....how we can get it??from school??

if i already get it...should i post it??

izzit will affect our application??

thanks again....

PEKA ,oral n leaving cert r redundant? wat is the time we REALLY used it(even i hav all A in the cert)?

Tasslehoff
07-03-2007, 06:14 AM
then....about the "testimonial"....how we can get it??from school??

if i already get it...should i post it??

izzit will affect our application??

thanks again....

PEKA ,oral n leaving cert r redundant? wat is the time we REALLY used it(even i hav all A in the cert)?

well if you really like it so much, why dont you like laminate it and frame it up and stick it in your living room?

lol really.. its useless... completely WORTHLESS.. :P
^just like how redundant those last two phrases are..

the time we really use it.. is to fill up your 'certs' folder... (thats what my friends do.. i threw mine somewhere)

sun90
08-03-2007, 10:03 PM
then....about the "testimonial"....how we can get it??from school??

if i already get it...should i post it??

izzit will affect our application??

thanks again....

PEKA ,oral n leaving cert r redundant? wat is the time we REALLY used it(even i hav all A in the cert)?

well if you really like it so much, why dont you like laminate it and frame it up and stick it in your living room?

lol really.. its useless... completely WORTHLESS.. :P
^just like how redundant those last two phrases are..

the time we really use it.. is to fill up your 'certs' folder... (thats what my friends do.. i threw mine somewhere)


ok...so they are all worthless... :(
and how about certificates of courses we obtained privately during the long vacation(dec 06 - mac 07)?such as computer course, and language courses(japanese,english etc)...will that help in application?

starfire
08-03-2007, 11:45 PM
certs gotten from District Level awareness camp...though without the participant's name...will it b of use?

n English Drama competition participation cert... useless?

r all participation certificates as worthless as garbage???

rulb
09-03-2007, 03:27 AM
Starfire, post what you think showcases your assets. If you think the participation for English Drama showcases who you are, then go ahead. But, remember not too put too many certs in the package. Just put what is necessary and you think showcases your abilities. If there's international and national, go for those first and also those that showcases leadership qualities (ie .king scout, president, head prefect, prefect, etc.).

White2020 - I didn't include my PEKA certs. I think I included my testimonials though coz they showed my posts and also achievements in a simplified form.

hamburger
09-03-2007, 03:39 AM
rulb, about cert that showcase leadership qualities, if king scout's cert can be use, then those Jaya badge's cert obtained can be use or not? because i am not a king scout. =D

DoomScythe
09-03-2007, 04:41 AM
Rulb has it right there. Basically, post whatever you think showcases your own ability.

With regard to the leaving school certificate, I don't think that it is useless. This may vary from school to school, but to me, my school cert is definitely worth quite a lot as it displays most of my contributions to the school in a concise form.

As for those small quizzes, courses and other things that you did not make it beyond school level (i.e, where you're recognised purely as a participant), don't send them. What I did was to have all of those stuff written to my leaving school cert and testimonial. It is a very efficient way of presenting a person in a favourable light without getting the reader irritated with the bulk of worthless certs.

starfire
09-03-2007, 06:44 PM
i hav a silly question here : What do 'Testimonials' refer to exactly and what does it contain? do we get them from the school? and how does it differ from CV and Resume?

next.....how r copies of certificates certified? Just ask a favour of the school's counsellor?

Thanks.

rulb
10-03-2007, 12:37 AM
Hamburger : Sorry but I'm a dummy in all those scout badges. I'm not sure how worthy they are. If they showcase your leadership abilities and are not too far off from a king scout's then probably you should include them. Any Recomers who know how worthy those Jaya badges are?

Starfire : A testimonial is from the school. Different schools have different formats. Mine basically stated my activites, conduct, post and achievements . I had a co-curriculum report as well. Resume or CV is done by you. I did one to summarize my activities and achievements. I did it in order of importance. i.e. international (latest year) - national, etc. It's up to you or you can use the ms office wizard for the template. I asked my principal or asst. principal to certify the certs. BAsically, school officials with the stamp that says certified true copy or salinan sah benar and his or her signature and name and post.

white2020
10-03-2007, 05:24 PM
er...50 certificates r too less or too many??

how many should i post??

thanks everyone...

sun90
10-03-2007, 06:39 PM
50? ...............
mine i think only half of yours... :(

DoomScythe
10-03-2007, 11:07 PM
er...50 certificates r too less or too many??

how many should i post??

thanks everyone...

50??? I think that's a bit overboard. Make it around 20, try not to go more thatn 25. Of course, if you have more than 30 National Level certificates, send all of them. The rule of thumb that I follow is that all of the certificates above the District Level should be submitted (i.e State, Natonal and International Level). As for the ones at District Level, all of it that you achieve something out of it, i.e other that participation should also be submitted. Also, clubs, societies and association that you're a president ought to be submitted. The rest, I guess, will be at your own discretion.

As for testimonial, rulb has answered it pretty well. I just would like to add that a testimonial could also be from a teacher, e.g your class teacher or someone in authority in your school or someone who knows you pretty well (must be a teacher or someone in authority, not your friend).

white2020
11-03-2007, 12:56 PM
er..when come to certificates...cocuriculum or curiculum more important??

such as...penang bridge marathon(participation) and getting credit in NSW test..(both international stage..and both mewakili sekolah)..which need to put infront??

then...anyone going to put the ORAL and PEKA sijil into them??

thanks again...

Sillyboy
11-03-2007, 12:59 PM
To those who are applying scholarships...There was a section about the BNM scholarship in The Star yesterday.(march 10 2007)

white2020
11-03-2007, 01:06 PM
er..when come to certificates...cocuriculum or curiculum more important??

such as...penang bridge marathon(participation) and getting credit in NSW test..(both international stage..and both mewakili sekolah)..which need to put infront??

then...anyone going to put the ORAL and PEKA sijil into them??

thanks again...



can anyone please answer my question??

thanks a lot...