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yekban81
01-04-2004, 08:11 PM
At the university, research are conducted primarily not for industrial needs but rather towards the advancement of knowledge and enhancement of academic activities that include teaching, publication, further research, community services etc....The industrial factor is considered secondary but nevertheless important.

Bearing in mind that many of the so-called inventions, advanced equipments, instrumentations, commercialized products etc. are the direct results of fundamental and basic research conducted in university's laboratories. These are particularly true in developed countries. Maybe in Malaysia we're still in the infancy stage since we're considered to be one of the developing countries. However, there are signs that things are beginning to change as can be seen from the government policy related to the awards of research grants. Research emphasis is more on the identified thrust areas as well as marketable products (outputs from the research projects) which is somewhat in line with the industrial demands. Already some of the research outputs have been successfully patented and some commercialized though the percentage is rather small.

Regarding post-graduates as overpriced or overqualified in the job market - that is generally very true and is understandable...In general, industry needs only 1st degree graduates - it is proven suffice. Only research institutions (like SIRIM, PORIM, RRI, MARDI) and big multi-national companies (MNCs like Texas Inst., Intel, etc. ) that involve the R&D works ever need post-graduates (other than institutions of higher learning of course).

Actually, it is up to the individual to decide his career path....To some people, they're still hungry for academic glories and achievements, they are more inclined to pursue higher qualification while others are more on the 'money making' and presumably more challenging sector outside education or research establishments. Either way, both are equally good - it all depends on us. It'll be more enjoyable if there is a factor of real interest in whatever tasks we're doing.

Interest may play an important part in the decision making but quite often we're left with no option but to take whatever that comes in our path.

chenchow
02-04-2004, 02:08 AM
In fact, I would say that some of the research over here are concentrated towards pure advancement, but I think typically to get research grant, it would be quite difficult to get huge grant, if the project is not really marketable.

Anyway, this is my personal opinion. I have no experience in it.

It is great to hear that local institutions are working harder towards R&D. There is one thing that I would think local institution should work on would be undergraduate research. A glance at the campus here, more than 50% of engineering students are involved in some kind of research. Some started doing research since freshman and those are not only limited to Americans. there are some Malaysians who have done research since their freshman year here.

yekban81
24-04-2004, 02:06 PM
Regarding about undergraduate research, we have students in their third and final year, who take part in R&D as either freelancer or research assistant. It would be rare to find students in their first year involve in R&D. Some does for extra financial support while others do it for learning of course. I am not sure about the conditions in other local universities.


I got this extract from a forum in this website.

I am now doing my master in Canada after obtaining a degree in engineering from a local university. Not only because of monetary assistance (at least CD$20000 per annum), but because of their attitute in education. It's not something like in M'sia. If anyone of you thinking of doing master by research, take my words, don't ever try that in m'sia. Basically, you are just wasting time with no sufficient funding and state-of-the-art equipments. In 2 to 3 years time, you will be only busying yourself preparing experimental apparatus for your experiments. So, at the end of the day, your thesis is of low quality because you don't have enough good data to support your claim. By the time you want to publish your idea in scientific papers, you ought to find out that ppl have already publised your same work some 3 to 4 years ago.
We have money to feed big cat like sammy vellu, ling liong sik, taib mahmud, eric chia, but sadly enough, we don't have money to support quality education. We rather poured our money into creating more ministries and ministers to turn them into fat cats, but turn a blind eye to our nation's future. At the end of the day, what we got??? samseng like those who killed another student in negeri 9 recently and also more and more 'tycons'.
OUR SOCIETY IS NOT DYNAMIC AT ALL. SAD BUT IS TRUE!!!!!!

Posted by: Shawn at April 2, 2004 12:30 PM


Sad but it sounds true especially in the few years back. As of now, the government has been working to provide more funds and facilities to boost up R&D.

SpRInG
26-04-2004, 01:02 AM
We have money to feed big cat like sammy vellu, ling liong sik, taib mahmud, eric chia, but sadly enough, we don't have money to support quality education. We rather poured our money into creating more ministries and ministers to turn them into fat cats, but turn a blind eye to our nation's future. At the end of the day, what we got??? samseng like those who killed another student in negeri 9 recently and also more and more 'tycons'.


yea.... i couldn't agree more... and this is because of the leader that we once had... was not as wise as we think he was.... such a shame.... given a Tun summore.... meaning invulnerability in the law.... sad....