Body Building

[iQing]

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does anyone of you doing or interested in Body building?

I like BB and I am doing it regulary with some of my seniors..
one of my senior .. he?s very skinny guy and after a few months of BB he?s now more muscular looking... not bad....

I find that BB helps me to tahan sejuk.....

[qedx]

haha a bit too much work for me

[kelvinlym]

sleeping also build body what.

Body become fatter.

[qedx]

yup my body very built

[iQing]

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these are the places where we can do some work out...

[laplace]

sleeping also build body what.

Body become fatter.

Yeah... eat more, sleep more will get your body built up as well. the difference is, they are built without proper shape like the stomach muscle 6 become 1... =)

[iQing]

sleeping also build body what.

Body become fatter.



this must be your ideal body... not mine


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[kevinkhoo1986]

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does anyone of you doing or interested in Body building?

I like BB and I am doing it regulary with some of my seniors..
one of my senior .. he?s very skinny guy and after a few months of BB he?s now more muscular looking... not bad....

I find that BB helps me to tahan sejuk.....

I do not like this type of Shape. Just too over muscular!! Look kinda disgusting. I prefer having the shape like a swimmer. Not too over muscular. Just nice , ideal and perfect!

[janewai]

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*shrug* :roll:
for me, personally, i feel very geli when see this kind of body shape... yeah... can't deny that it's a well-cuild body... but... :?

[Kevinlim]

Body building is good but if build until like in the pics above, I don't think it'll look nice.
Yeah... eat more, sleep more will get your body built up as well. the difference is, they are built without proper shape like the stomach muscle 6 become 1... =)

ok wert, 6 become 1. Why want so many? 1 is enough. Don't be greedy :P :oops:

[DecentMerson]

sleeping also build body what.

Body become fatter.

Yeah... eat more, sleep more will get your body built up as well. the difference is, they are built without proper shape like the stomach muscle 6 become 1... =)

hahaha...
yah... eat and sleep does keep u in shape....

if i am not wrong....ROUND is still a SHAPE..... kekekek

u can be a well rounder too.... kekeke

[iQing]

nobody ask u to go for the extreme lah.....
you can still go to fitness centre and be more healthy.....
arnold schwazernegger and silvester stallon and Jackie chan looks ok although they are mascular...
from the pic above normally thier body is coated with oil so they look artificial...

[iQing]

today at first I feel dull and no mood at all

after going to fitness ctre I feel very fresh...

life is great with body building!

[topdog]

how much do u guys bench?

[screw3d]

how much do u guys bench?
As of now, 135lbs barbells, 8 reps, 3 sets without a spotter on a flat bench..

Don't wanna lose any ribs ;)

[Kevinlim]

haha
does pumping itself counts as body building? :oops:

[iQing]

Body building is for the whole body...
if u do sit up or press up only u r building only a part of body..

what?s the use of having six pack when ur limbs and back are lembik?

and what?s good if we have strong arms with very weak chest and abdoment?

overall performance is important...

try BB...
I get sick much less often after going for BB

[Kevinlim]

i don't really get sick often. maybe 2-3 times a year only and it's juz some minor sickness which will recover in around 2-3 days.
And don't have a proper gym near my place so can't do body building

[ElansarGelmir]

i prefer a V shape body. too bad lar, my current body is a U shape, with a flat curve at the bottom.... ermm... get the picture?

[bp_ffei]

From what I read on the net not everyone can get a great bod simply going to fitness centres or gyms frequently. You have to look after your diet, sleep, rest between gym sessions etc. Sometimes I think it's quite complicated...

Anyway, I've been going on and off to the gym... Can't say I look great... but I definitely feel better! I face problems to gain mass. Guess my genes are the cause... haha...

[topdog]

Anyway, I've been going on and off to the gym... Can't say I look great... but I definitely feel better! I face problems to gain mass. Guess my genes are the cause... haha...
i think to gain mass u gotta use barbells... and lift weights that are more than you can handle comfortably... in other words lift till you feel like ur dying... heavier weights + fewer reps. and concentrate on a specific muscle group each gym session. light dumbbells and machines may improve form but i don't think they help much in bulking up. diet is definitely important (eat more protein).

what do other gym junkies think?

btw i read somewhere that good gyms in msia cost at least rm150/mth not including annual fee. with my future meagre salary how the heck am i supposed to afford that? also i read that gyms in msia are full of gay guys (nttawt)....is that true?

[MarquisX]

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does anyone of you doing or interested in Body building?

I like BB and I am doing it regulary with some of my seniors..
one of my senior .. he?s very skinny guy and after a few months of BB he?s now more muscular looking... not bad....

I find that BB helps me to tahan sejuk.....

(pointing at the pic) tak dapat jack, tak dapat. hahaha.

how much do u guys bench?

classic. hehehe.

[topdog]

god that's gross.

[MarquisX]

how soon your muscles grow also depends on the type of regiment you are in. i changed my regiment to something called split plan 6 months ago (been working out for 2 yrs now). the split plan concentrate on specific sets of muscles (e.g. biceps+lats+abs)for a while and tire out those muscle until 'failure'. a whole lot faster muscle building than my 3 + 2hrs routine.

[iQing]

omg

*shake heads*

Self improvement anyone?

[PJKru]

Hey guys. I'm interested in making my fibres, stronger and more quick to react mainly. I dont really want to build up mass but i want to be able to throw a punch quicker for martial arts(I'm not a thug).
What do you guys suggest is a good way of bodybuilding for such an outcome?

[DecentMerson]

i don't think u need any special training for that...if u are fit (most common definition of fit is able to jog 2.4km in less than 12 minutes - keep jogging until u can cover the 2.4km course in 10 minutes or so)...

all u need is just practice... like if u want to be fast in throwing punches... punch more... if u want to be fast in kicking... kick more...
once u are comfortable with punching and kicking, u will be surprised that u can raise ur fist or leg in really short time... and it is like some reflexive motion...

and if u have ppl to train with, ask them to be ur target(they have to wear sparing vest of coz)... or ask them to be the holder of kicking/punching pads...

(just what i learn from taekwondo...)
hope these methods help...

[Calvin-metta]

topdog
hey seriously considerin pumpin som iron to get a muscular shape. a starter though..

any great plans4starters...

real grateful. thnx. u're d man!

[ice111]

hahaha
who can help me to deal with my underweight problem?
eat a lot of food ( not a good suggestion , i tried it , it stilll fails... )
i am still 10 kg short from the normal BMI !!!
any great ideas to share with me?

[vaanbalthier]

lol, to all guys out there, join in this thread. BB is fun people!!!
anyway, i started excercising in march, jogging though and i find myself waking earlier n more lively than i used to be. but then, after knowing dat i failed to enter UPNM, i stopped excercising and i started getting sick. and last week after my brother called me a fat chicken, i decided to hit out at the gym again.
and u knw wat? i feel great!!! to all the geeks, nerds, thin guys, fat guys, tall guys, short guys(girls nt included), take my word. go to the gym, work it out, get sweaty, get ur manly smell, and trust me, in 3 months, u'll feel like a brand new man!!!

[insertusername]

u serious BB?or play play

[vaanbalthier]

erm, nt really BB....just get myself some nice biceps, triceps, chest, shoulders......u knw....to make it slightly muscular, nt like arnold
come on, anyone feel like BB???

[insertusername]

Lol takes years of training and plenty of "help" to become like arnold. You don't work your back?

[alepbing]

i have a question, will working out make you become shorter? O.O

[vaanbalthier]

i dun wan to be arnold......yea i do build my nack too.....but will only do it once i get my biceps....at least dat's wat the coach said....to get my arms stronger so dat i can use heavier weight to train my back......so far all my training is for my arm, shoulder, chest n stomach....back he said wait first.....but he did ask me to do a weird exercise, to "train" my back
it's done by lying on a thing(dunno wat is it called), then bend down and up again......

[insertusername]

if you do chest without training your back youre gonna screw up your posture...

[alepbing]

eh, answer la my question XD i really want to know. they say working out will make you... shorter. is it true? :P

[whui]

Heh yeah I know I'm not supposed to be here..but from what i heard, having abs in tender age will make you stop growing..so its not gonna "make you shorter" lah..our growing curve is irreversible mar..hehe

[vaanbalthier]

Heh yeah I know I'm not supposed to be here..but from what i heard, having abs in tender age will make you stop growing..so its not gonna "make you shorter" lah..our growing curve is irreversible mar..hehe

i'm 17....stopped growing ady....lol

btw, i did some back exercise, but nt as vigorous as my arms n shoulder.....chest, stomach n back only do 15 times in 3 sets.....the rest do 50 times in 5 sets*sweat*

[kintaro_kun]

i was chatting with a few frens about chest muscles the other day, and we found out that there are 4 types of chest muscle shapes: triangular, square, round and oval.

most ppl favor having square pecs, while i myself have round ones. are the shapes genetically determined? or dependent on the exercises that you do for your pecs? can the shapes be changed?

i like my own round shaped pecs, though many would not necessarily want to have round ones. which shape do you guys favour?

[anderscheng]

eh, answer la my question XD i really want to know. they say working out will make you... shorter. is it true? :P

Its true. Somehow. Something to do with the hormone level and such. Generally, you're maturing faster. For example, most male gymnast are quite short. The tallest i heard is like 175 cm 0.0 . Mostly, are around the 160+cm range. BB doesn't make your shorter just prevents you from being taller. Haha.

[Caprio]

Its true. Somehow. Something to do with the hormone level and such. Generally, you're maturing faster. For example, most male gymnast are quite short. The tallest i heard is like 175 cm 0.0 . Mostly, are around the 160+cm range. BB doesn't make your shorter just prevents you from being taller. Haha.

Yupp. That's why it is advisable that you only start body building after the age of 20. By the way, the basic BB like push ups, sit ups and so on are all right.

[kintaro_kun]

meh, dun think so. we keep saying gymnast are short, but think deeper for a while. are they short because they are gymnasts? or they are gymnasts because they are short? why would any coach wanna select a tall guy to swing from poles and do balancing acts? a smaller and shorter stature would be better in these. its the same with horse jockeys. they are short. are we saying horse riding will make you shorter? no, we need horse jockeys who are short.

the same with basketball players. playing basketball will make you taller? or its just that the coach selects tall ppl to be in the basketball team? and then the audience sees this and go on to exclaim that "whoa, basketball team so many tall ppl, play basketball sure can make you tall".

seriously, with heavyweight lifters(diff from bodybuilders, mind you) we see in the competitions, they are short. but would any coach wanna have a tall guy lifting some 100kg barbell, or a shorter guy who can provide more balancing in that? then the audience goes to say "whoa, do this will make guys shorter" -_-"

anyway, how tall are malik noor, arnold etc bodybuilders? based on the amount of muscle they pumped, and if those myths were any true, they should be at most 160cm. but are they?

[insertusername]

i have a question, will working out make you become shorter? O.O
Ah the age old question. No, there is no scientific evidence whatsoever supporting this claim. You might stunt your growth only if you injure your growth plates by using poor form. People think that bodybuilding stunts vertical growth because alot of BBers are short but what they dont know is that there are more short, big guys because it gets harder to appear big as you get taller.

[chen]

BB doesn't prevent you get taller or make you get shorter..
All this seems to happen is that you look broader..
i.e.
You work your shoulder, back and chest out..
Obviously you'll look some what 'thicker' or more 'berisi'..
Then opinion of others would be 'Hey, you look shorter'.

BB jsut gave a slight illusion that you get shorter or look shorter.
But the truth is, your body got broader..

[vaanbalthier]

lol, some of the guys will be broader while some will be wider, it depends on u. be hardworking orlazy, dat's all

[insertusername]

isnt broad and wide the same thing? But srsly 80% is diet

[vaanbalthier]

lol, broad as in more muscular, wide as in fatter.........lol..........can't believe i'm so lame...........@<hidden>(T_T)@<hidden>

[jdn7119]

True enough,one argument is that bodybuilding may seemingly portray your body as horizontally "expanded".However, another side is truly biological where lifting weight beyond your body's natural capacity may,in most cases stunt vertical growth when executing exercises that in the same way appear to stunt verterbae( i spelt it correctly,right) longation. For example, exercises that kind of "compress" your body and not the isolated exercises like the bicep curl, sit-ups etc. I'd say before your body is fully "grown", sitting exercises are permittable, and so does benchpressing,well you know what i mean.

To claims that the sight of muslce popping out is just unbearable,well i'd say on behalf of all amateur bodybuilders, GET REAL! Do you think you can look like Arnold right after a workout,or at least in a month? Well a physique like that sure doesn't come when you want it too, but sheer determination!

[anderscheng]

meh, dun think so. we keep saying gymnast are short, but think deeper for a while. are they short because they are gymnasts? or they are gymnasts because they are short? why would any coach wanna select a tall guy to swing from poles and do balancing acts? a smaller and shorter stature would be better in these. its the same with horse jockeys. they are short. are we saying horse riding will make you shorter? no, we need horse jockeys who are short.

the same with basketball players. playing basketball will make you taller? or its just that the coach selects tall ppl to be in the basketball team? and then the audience sees this and go on to exclaim that "whoa, basketball team so many tall ppl, play basketball sure can make you tall".

seriously, with heavyweight lifters(diff from bodybuilders, mind you) we see in the competitions, they are short. but would any coach wanna have a tall guy lifting some 100kg barbell, or a shorter guy who can provide more balancing in that? then the audience goes to say "whoa, do this will make guys shorter" -_-"

anyway, how tall are malik noor, arnold etc bodybuilders? based on the amount of muscle they pumped, and if those myths were any true, they should be at most 160cm. but are they?


they did a statistic somewhere on the net. They chart based on parents genes and such. It has no definite answer but it shows that most gymnast are short. By the way, how do you choose a short gymnast when you've trained them from young and tender age?You can't predict their heights till there are teens. Its impossible. I disregard the belief that coaches kicks out the taller gymnasts from the team.


Besides, height is not really a matter as its just harder to balance in gymnastics. Like those russian gymnast, some are quite tall than average girls [but still shorter than guys]

Skills are more important anyways regardless of what sport. Some Bballers are short and they use it to their advantage as taller players can't bend that much.

[insertusername]

At the elite level you'll need all the help you can get.

[kintaro_kun]

they did a statistic somewhere on the net. They chart based on parents genes and such. It has no definite answer but it shows that most gymnast are short. By the way, how do you choose a short gymnast when you've trained them from young and tender age?You can't predict their heights till there are teens. Its impossible. I disregard the belief that coaches kicks out the taller gymnasts from the team.


Besides, height is not really a matter as its just harder to balance in gymnastics. Like those russian gymnast, some are quite tall than average girls [but still shorter than guys]

Skills are more important anyways regardless of what sport. Some Bballers are short and they use it to their advantage as taller players can't bend that much.

oh, so you admit there are tall gymnasts and short basketball players? so what happened to the belief of "gymnastics make you short" and "basketball makes you tall"?

coaches do not kick out tall gymnasts from a team, IF that tall gymnast is as capable/skillful as a shorter one. however, it is more likely that a tall gymnast would find his height to be more of a disadvantage, hence its more likely that a gymnastic team, has no tall gymnasts present. in basketball, the team works...as a team. maybe the shorter player might complement the taller team players in terms of strategy. but if its individual performance like in gymnastics, it is much preferable to have an all tall team if basketball was just about individual slamdunking, if you know what i mean.

statistics are easy to develop. since short ppl are chosen to be jockeys, i can also conclude that most jockeys are short. it doesnt say that horse riding will stunt your growth whatsoever. hence while it is logical to say most gymnasts are short, there is nothing that shows that gymnastics will make you short. your "parents' genes" theory further explains that somebody's height is not determined by the sport he/she plays.

[anderscheng]

oh, so you admit there are tall gymnasts and short basketball players? so what happened to the belief of "gymnastics make you short" and "basketball makes you tall"?

coaches do not kick out tall gymnasts from a team, IF that tall gymnast is as capable/skillful as a shorter one. however, it is more likely that a tall gymnast would find his height to be more of a disadvantage, hence its more likely that a gymnastic team, has no tall gymnasts present. in basketball, the team works...as a team. maybe the shorter player might complement the taller team players in terms of strategy. but if its individual performance like in gymnastics, it is much preferable to have an all tall team if basketball was just about individual slamdunking, if you know what i mean.

statistics are easy to develop. since short ppl are chosen to be jockeys, i can also conclude that most jockeys are short. it doesnt say that horse riding will stunt your growth whatsoever. hence while it is logical to say most gymnasts are short, there is nothing that shows that gymnastics will make you short. your "parents' genes" theory further explains that somebody's height is not determined by the sport he/she plays.


There are tall gymnast if you compare amongst GYMNAST. However, gymnast are shorter than average people. For jockeys , you mention you choose short people. In gymnastic you can't choose short people. All are trained from young and basically all have the same height when young. Like i said, only when during the teens you will only know whether they will be tall or not. Coincidence or not, but why do almost all gymnast are have less than average people's height. Go check beijing olympics athletes profile. Sports has the ability alter your physical body. For example, playing basketball can make you grow taller because you're always streching your spine however your genes will be the controlling factor. If you have "short" genes then you will be short but maybe through Bball you may grow a little taller than what your height should really be. Your age also counts too mar. Don't expect a 40 year old uncle to gain 5 inches when he plays basket ball because he's way off the growing curve.

So back to gymnastics, don't tell me all the gymnast have "short" genes? the only way to deduce is the way of exercises accelerate the hormones and cause them to be short.

[kintaro_kun]

actually i dont know what youre trying to say in your post. you seem to concoct things that i nvr said and imply as if i said them.

i nvr said gymnasts have "short" genes.i recognise there are tall and short gymnasts, unfortunately the TV nvr shows tall gymnasts, thats all.

you see, we can classify gymnasts into two groups, one, are those who actually go to competitions like the olympics and they often get shown on TV, thus making remarkable influence on ppl's perception for the sport. another type is, those who play gymnastics, but because they play it amateurly, or just arent selected by their coaches to represent the country or for whatever reason, do not have the same exposure as their counterparts shown on tv. we can classify all sports like that. we have your neighbour muthu, ah chong, ali, playing basketball, and we have michael jordan playing basketball too. we cannot say that "basketball makes you taller, because the proof is--->michael jordan is tall". what about your muthu, ah chong and ali who might not even reach 170cm, and still play basketball? we dont see short muthu, ah chong and ali on ESPN because coaches are more likely to select the tall michael jordan to join the game. and thats how the public who watches ESPN come to the conclusion that basketball makes you taller, which, is incorrect.

of course there are tall gymnasts among gymnasts, i nvr said there arent. there are short basketball players like muthu, ah chong and ali, i nvr said they dont exist. its just that its more likely that they dont show up on TV, hence created this false perception that basketball players are nvr short, they must be tall, thanks to basketball.

even if you scout the gymnast teams ON TV, it is MORE LIKELY that you find that the team comprises of men(and women) of shorter stature. and this creates the false perception that gymnastics makes you shorter, which is incorrect, because coaches are MORE LIKELY to select shorter players for the olympic teams, not that the sport makes you short.

if we can choose short ppl to be jockeys, tall ppl to join basketball, short ppl to do heavy lifting, tall ppl to do long/multiple jumps, i dont know why gymnastics coaches are not able to select the players according to body height to place in the team. if they want to cross your name out to appear on TV and influence public perception, they can. its not a coincidence that gymnasts who appear on TV are short, they are there because their coaches place them there.

i know certain sports make certain muscle group(s) to be more developed. bowling develops your arms, soccer develops your legs, etc, but they are all muscle development, they dont actually "lengthen" the bone do they? can exercises "lengthen" the bone? i'm not convinced until i see scientific proof on the issue. the others are just hearsay and tales based on perceptions like:

"coincidentally", we see guys in porn have long penis, this means acting in porn actually lengthens your penis! (its crude, i know, but it hits the nail)

anyway, i'll try to get back to the topic of bodybuilding now. i have a pecs with mass outwards, but i cant seem to make it "widen" as in, grow sideways, instead of towards the front. how do i broaden my chest then? do flies actually work in this? or do i have to broaden my shoulders first, by working on the delts?

[insertusername]

You see, gymnasts in the beijing olympics for instance are generally shorter because theyre height is an advantage that helps them reach that level. You seldom see tall gymnasts because its harder for them to excel and gain exposure not because they don't exist. The same goes for any sport.

@<hidden> kintaro: Your lower pecs are probably lagging try adding weighted dips or decline bench presses to your routine if you havent already.

[kintaro_kun]

You see, gymnasts in the beijing olympics for instance are generally shorter because theyre height is an advantage that helps them reach that level. You seldom see tall gymnasts because its harder for them to excel and gain exposure not because they don't exist. The same goes for any sport.

thats what i thought.

@<hidden> kintaro: Your lower pecs are probably lagging try adding weighted dips or decline bench presses to your routine if you havent already.

ooo, i always thought my upper pecs were the problem in this. how do lower pecs influence the width of the chest? i was hoping to get sorta like a triangle upper body, its just that my triangle is kinda narrow, ie. the upper part of the triangle is not wide enuf.

furthermore, my chest is like, thicker at the lower pecs, while being less bulky at the upper pecs and the middle. i've been starting to do more inclines recently, to "balance up" the bulk.

am a noob in bb, please advise.

[anderscheng]

actually i dont know what youre trying to say in your post. you seem to concoct things that i nvr said and imply as if i said them.

i nvr said gymnasts have "short" genes.i recognise there are tall and short gymnasts, unfortunately the TV nvr shows tall gymnasts, thats all.

you see, we can classify gymnasts into two groups, one, are those who actually go to competitions like the olympics and they often get shown on TV, thus making remarkable influence on ppl's perception for the sport. another type is, those who play gymnastics, but because they play it amateurly, or just arent selected by their coaches to represent the country or for whatever reason, do not have the same exposure as their counterparts shown on tv. we can classify all sports like that. we have your neighbour muthu, ah chong, ali, playing basketball, and we have michael jordan playing basketball too. we cannot say that "basketball makes you taller, because the proof is--->michael jordan is tall". what about your muthu, ah chong and ali who might not even reach 170cm, and still play basketball? we dont see short muthu, ah chong and ali on ESPN because coaches are more likely to select the tall michael jordan to join the game. and thats how the public who watches ESPN come to the conclusion that basketball makes you taller, which, is incorrect.

of course there are tall gymnasts among gymnasts, i nvr said there arent. there are short basketball players like muthu, ah chong and ali, i nvr said they dont exist. its just that its more likely that they dont show up on TV, hence created this false perception that basketball players are nvr short, they must be tall, thanks to basketball.

even if you scout the gymnast teams ON TV, it is MORE LIKELY that you find that the team comprises of men(and women) of shorter stature. and this creates the false perception that gymnastics makes you shorter, which is incorrect, because coaches are MORE LIKELY to select shorter players for the olympic teams, not that the sport makes you short.

if we can choose short ppl to be jockeys, tall ppl to join basketball, short ppl to do heavy lifting, tall ppl to do long/multiple jumps, i dont know why gymnastics coaches are not able to select the players according to body height to place in the team. if they want to cross your name out to appear on TV and influence public perception, they can. its not a coincidence that gymnasts who appear on TV are short, they are there because their coaches place them there.

i know certain sports make certain muscle group(s) to be more developed. bowling develops your arms, soccer develops your legs, etc, but they are all muscle development, they dont actually "lengthen" the bone do they? can exercises "lengthen" the bone? i'm not convinced until i see scientific proof on the issue. the others are just hearsay and tales based on perceptions like:

"coincidentally", we see guys in porn have long penis, this means acting in porn actually lengthens your penis! (its crude, i know, but it hits the nail)

anyway, i'll try to get back to the topic of bodybuilding now. i have a pecs with mass outwards, but i cant seem to make it "widen" as in, grow sideways, instead of towards the front. how do i broaden my chest then? do flies actually work in this? or do i have to broaden my shoulders first, by working on the delts?


i still beg to differ as i've friends majoring in the sport. Usually not many people will go for gymnastic leisurely[malaysian scene].Its either competitive or out from that sport. I don't think you want to practise 6 times a week and 4-6 hours a day leisurely? Don't you find the odds oppose what you say? If you say that gymnast are chosen based on height in the competitive arena, isn't it unfair to those who are taller yet skillful? I'm sure those who are skillful would be chosen first. And if they are skillful, why are all the skillfull ones shorter?

if not for the slow internet, i would be able to find the scientific post about gymnastics.

Our spine has the capability to be stretch anyway.
Proof 1: If you stand/sit/sleep with a bad posture for years you might lose a few inches of height there.

Stretching like yoga has benefits of make your posture and stretching your spine. You may gain a few inches of height but that's about all. But that still proofs that height can be gained from stretching. Though gymnastics has lots of stretching they bend way more than normal people do. Hence, their very arch backs.

Extreme and hard sports like these are trained from young. I wont' be surprised if children end up very tall if they learn basketball at a very young and tender age. However, that's not the case nowadays. Sports like badminton too start from a very young age especially starting from 10-12 years old. Like our badminton athletes, most of them surpass average height. Wong Choong Han is 192 cm tall for example.

Anyway, this is from my perspective. Its a gamble as most gymnast start from a young tender age. It can't be a possibility that all these children are meant to be shorter than average people because each one has their own genes. Biology proves it in the phenotype explanation. Both genes and physical plays a part in how we are today.

[insertusername]

thats what i thought.



ooo, i always thought my upper pecs were the problem in this. how do lower pecs influence the width of the chest? i was hoping to get sorta like a triangle upper body, its just that my triangle is kinda narrow, ie. the upper part of the triangle is not wide enuf.

furthermore, my chest is like, thicker at the lower pecs, while being less bulky at the upper pecs and the middle. i've been starting to do more inclines recently, to "balance up" the bulk.

am a noob in bb, please advise.
The V shape comes from your lats and back not your chest do more pullups and rows. As for the chest maybe try pullovers. They supposedly increase the size of your ribcage.

[de_steng]

i already have 2 packs, still working on 4 other... haha

[Caprio]

i already have 2 packs, still working on 4 other... haha

Which two packs do you refer to?

By the way, body building should come as a whole. :)
If not, later when you get the 4 packs and you lose your two packs. Haha...

[de_steng]

Haha...
actually those 2 packs only seen when i'm not eating my lunch

[kintaro_kun]

hmmm... i think the 2 packs youre referring to could be your upper abs?

IMHO, lower abs are harder to get.