Haze

[iQing]

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now haze is coming back to malaysia... remember the haze crisis ilast time in malaysia? it?s ridiculous to see that the health point reaches beyond 700 points...

I hope things woun?t get worse...

here?s one of the news link about haze...

http://202.186.86.35/news/story.asp?file=/2004/6/23/nation/8275798&newspage=Search

[__earth]

the haze won't go away as long as the indonesian govt is not serious about banning open burning.

They are yet to ractify the pact concerning the air quality that was agreed on in the aftermath of the last haze.

[iQing]

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perhaps it's time for international pressure on the indonesian government.

[__earth]

perhaps. but somehow, even with international pressure, i don't think indonesia has the resources to enforce such banning.

what indonesia needs is aid. I believe Malaysia and Singapore, maybe even UNEP, should fund any legislation/agreement to ban open burning in indonesia. afterall, the haze is hurthing Malaysia and Singapore.

[iQing]

I don?t think singapore will coorperate much..
last time it was malaysia who give thier helping hands...

[__earth]

so much for the spirit of ASEAN.

funny how ASEAN hasn't been active since the last haze.

[iQing]

it?s sad if no proper action is taken by the top people..
but as normal people what can we do?

[__earth]

how about a letter from recom to ASEAN Secretariat?

more than happy to send it and even fund it :wink:

[aquila]

Oh yes, there's something you can do alright. WRITE to newspapers, magazines, etc... Anything that will publish your article and make your views known! In the US, they have op-eds. Not sure about Malaysia.

[iQing]

there are already a lot of such articles in newspapers...
esp in NST u can find a lot..

years ago haze was a big issue in malaysia as the newspaper and media make a lot of noise about it.

they even have to give holidays to students due to the haze hazard.


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[digimushu]

hahaha
i remember the 1997 haze crisis...
had a nice 3 weeks study break for PMR but i just spent it sleeping
:)

Hrm....
since this open burning thing has been going on for a long time in the past, how come we only see the effect now?

the 'slash and burn' agricultural method has been practised since a long time ago. Don't we have haze in the 50's and 60s?

just wondering...

[Kevinlim]

the 'slash and burn' agricultural method has been practised since a long time ago. Don't we have haze in the 50's and 60s?

we don't have that many factories and vehicles to contribute to the haze in the 50's and 60's. I think that's y there is no haze then.

As for the haze condition now, i think it's getting worse from time to time. Hope that I'm wrong.

[digimushu]

'we'?

we as in Malaysians, or the whole ASEAN region?

I know it is easy to point fingers at people but we better check to see if we are the cause of our own fate first. i've heard several years ago that some power stations are burning PALM OIL instead of PALM DIESEL which is really bad. Not sure if it is true or not...but doesn't palm oil cause more soot when burned that way?

Also, how is the enforcement of emissions control laws in M'sia as far as factories are concerned? Are we enforcing the laws as they should be on ALL factories in M'sia?

How bout the factories in other ASEAN nations? could it be the industry from our neighbours?*Gasp!* Does it mean that we have to break their 'periuk nasi'?

last but not least...we should encourage people to use the public transport. It helps to reduce vehicle emissions. Also, we should encourage HOVs(high occupancy vehicles). In the US, they have a lane just specially for HOVs.

what do u guys think?

[iQing]

'we'?

we as in Malaysians, or the whole ASEAN region?

I know it is easy to point fingers at people but we better check to see if we are the cause of our own fate first. i've heard several years ago that some power stations are burning PALM OIL instead of PALM DIESEL which is really bad. Not sure if it is true or not...but doesn't palm oil cause more soot when burned that way?

Also, how is the enforcement of emissions control laws in M'sia as far as factories are concerned? Are we enforcing the laws as they should be on ALL factories in M'sia?

How bout the factories in other ASEAN nations? could it be the industry from our neighbours?*Gasp!* Does it mean that we have to break their 'periuk nasi'?

last but not least...we should encourage people to use the public transport. It helps to reduce vehicle emissions. Also, we should encourage HOVs(high occupancy vehicles). In the US, they have a lane just specially for HOVs.

what do u guys think?


what u say about malaysian policy has little to do with haze...but with air polution in GENERAL

haze don?t come all the time but our polution does...
even if u change the whole system in malaysia into super environmental friendly and Indonesia still burn stuffs the haze is still there...
so now the main focus is in indonesia not malaysia as the polution in malaysia is not the MAIN cause for the haze currently....

[ElansarGelmir]

Why dun we (ASEAN) set up a HAZE team that will be very vigilant, especially when it comes to dry season on the forest burnings? Well, all they have to do is to locate small smoke signals in the forest (through satelites?), and rush there ASAP and if the forest's burning, get helicopters to shower the nearby trees...

Someone got to stop the small fire before it gets bigger, right?

[iQing]

saying is easy..

remember how many ahli bomba malaysia sent to indonesia last time?

[ElansarGelmir]

That was because the fire got out of control. what i mean is get a vigilant team to be ready to extinguish small, or even tiny fires which they detect in the forest right away.

[iQing]

tiny fire is not detectable..

even if u use satelite the tiny fire u spot might be the asap kilang or puntung rokok.... (might be few million of this tiny red spot in indonesia.. r u going to ask the bomba to put off all the milions of red spots?)

maybe medium fire is possible but I think it?s not unsual to spot medium fire in daily lives as well..
unless they become rampant... then it?s really detectable..

but then it?s too late because so many medium or big fire already caused the haze...,

that?s why saying is easier than done...

[ElansarGelmir]

oh dear, i said in the forest... u know, when everywhere's supposed to be quite cool, not so heaty (even though it's a little dry), a little less polution. not in the urban areas ler.... that one one small fire the area will be alerted liao...

[__earth]

Why dun we (ASEAN) set up a HAZE team that will be very vigilant, especially when it comes to dry season on the forest burnings? Well, all they have to do is to locate small smoke signals in the forest (through satelites?), and rush there ASAP and if the forest's burning, get helicopters to shower the nearby trees...

Someone got to stop the small fire before it gets bigger, right?

Done. it was signed as ASEAN Transboundary Haze Agreement. But Indonesia doesn't want to or has yet to ractify it, unfortunately.

I don't know much about law but I do know economics.

Therefore. if I were the Malaysian PM, I would march to the World Court and sue Indonesia for damage and refusal of cooperation. This would provide an incentive for the Indonesian to ractify the pact.

[chenchow]

Read a news report, can't remember from where, then VP of Indonesia blamed it on Malaysia and Singapore, saying that we are equally responsible, because some of those logs were illegally exported to Malaysia and Singapore.

What do you guys think?

[iQing]

pointing fingers....

the fire is from indonesia..
it has nothing to do with illegal logging.. haha
unless malaysians and singaporians go to indonesia to burn the woods.

[pandaboy]

By the way, talking about haze....are there any haze problems in Genting Highlands and Cameron Highlands as well?

[iQing]

not sure..
u can check the news search in google or so for info..

[pandaboy]

Haze seemed to be over...at least for today....hehe...
Sun shines brightly...probably due to the rainfall these two days...
But not sure about tomorrow though...
Ok...thats the today's weather report here in klang valley.... :roll:

[chenchow]

pointing fingers....

the fire is from indonesia..
it has nothing to do with illegal logging.. haha
unless malaysians and singaporians go to indonesia to burn the woods.

It is precisely what has happened. Some Malaysians and Singaporeans have some logging rights in Indonesia and some of them, choose to take an easy way, by having illegal burning of the forest in Indonesia...

[ElansarGelmir]

Sigh... these ppl never learn... next time if i catch anyone burning forest, i will burn theirs! :evil: :twisted: :twisted: :evil:

[iQing]

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2004/7/2/nation/8351242&sec=nation


Illegal loggers may face death

Illegal loggers in Indonesia, who are blamed for the forest fires that caused haze in neighbouring countries, may face the death penalty when a proposed interim law is passed and signed by Indonesian President Megawati Sukarnoputri.

[digimushu]

Illegal loggers may face death

Illegal loggers in Indonesia, who are blamed for the forest fires that caused haze in neighbouring countries, may face the death penalty when a proposed interim law is passed and signed by Indonesian President Megawati Sukarnoputri.



Yayyyy...I hope Malaysia adopts the same thing...
:D
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[kevinkhoo1986]

Dont you think it is too harsh to implement death sentence for those who burned the forest in Malaysia?? :? Our cases is not that severe compare to the indonesia. Personally i think it is not suitable to implement it in our nation :lol:

[digimushu]

I meant that the punishment should be directed to the illegal loggers. :) not those that burn forests.

[iQing]

at least the indonesian government is doing something now....
after many years of haze problem...

[pandaboy]

I think the haze is over. Period.
It's been raining cats and dogs these few days here in Klang.
Glad that the haze is gone for the moment..

[iQing]

No More Hotspots In Sumatra, Air Quality Back To Normal

KUALA LUMPUR, July 8 (Bernama) -- Heavy rain in most parts of Sumatra since last week and several parts of the peninsular Malaysia west coast since Monday has contributed significantly to bringing the air quality back to normal.


http://www.bernama.com.my/bernama/v3/news.php?id=78399

[__earth]

I think the haze is over. Period.
It's been raining cats and dogs these few days here in Klang.
Glad that the haze is gone for the moment..

And a year later, the story continues.

[kevinkhoo1986]

It seems like the haze problems is getting worse here in Klang. I could not see anything beyond 1 km. I heard a news from the buletin utama which stated that haze will last until september. Right now i am just hoping the rain to fall. It's pretty dry here.....

[lotus]

Looks like we're sitting ducks for the annual Indonesian haze..Internationally and nationally nothing much appeared as effective solutions...Meanwhile, my eyes are smarting and my throat stinging. :cry: No exaggeration!...I know drink lots of water and stay indoors. Anything else we can do? Is the mask effective? Wondering.......... :?:

[mita27]

Dude
buckle up for the dawn of Malaysian ice age when we can longer see sunlight in the next few days. I 'm gonna buy alot of Char keow tiau , nasi lemak & alots of durian for storage just in case .

[lotus]

Dude
buckle up for the dawn of Malaysian ice age when we can longer see sunlight in the next few days. I 'm gonna buy alot of Char keow tiau , nasi lemak & alots of durian for storage just in case .
This sounds like luxury, to be holed up with all the goodies. No such luck with the haze. Soon we might be smoked out eventually....can even smell the 'burning smell' right now in my air-cond..air-tight room...sad huh..

[mita27]

I think the highly skilled Indo fire brigades might have mistakenly sprayed alcohol or petro onto the fire due to shortage of H20 , which probably explains y it's getting worsen day by day.

[__earth]

Looks like we're sitting ducks for the annual Indonesian haze..Internationally and nationally nothing much appeared as effective solutions...

there is one. It's called the ASEAN Transboundary Haze Pollution Agreement. It allows cooperation between ASEAN nations to cooperate and harmonize actions against haze source. It probably calls for legislative action on haze.

But guess who has yet to ratify (more like refuses) it...

[aftershox]

i just came back from kl yesterday to kedah...the haze in kl is getting worse it seems....everyday visibility getting worse i think..it was hazy along the way back...
but back in kedah it wasnt that bad...however there were still ppl burning in the paddy fields...i mean the burning of the old paddy...
it's a usual activity around this time of the year...but i think that with respect to the haze issue now....they shouldn't be burning like this in the open... is there no other way to get rid of their old padi stalks and all??

[leng_cyl]

ah... I'm in Kepong.. and the situation is so bad =.="
I hate dirty air >"<

haze haze haze!!!!
hope school authority will close the school for these days ... @<hidden>@<hidden>"
I think the visibility is also lower than 1 km..or maybe just about 0.5km ? ....
aiks.... my throat ~~ is so dry and.. my voice is hoarse now... :(

8O maybe I should wear the mask also ~~~~

[kevinkhoo1986]

Darn it! the haze is getting worse and what our neighbour did is just know how to apologise for what that happen to us. Two girls fainted today at my school due to difficulties in breathing. They have to send to TAR hospital by ambulance. If the yesterday news which stated that this haze will last until this september, i guess more students will be fainted......

[khor_albert]

they even have to give holidays to students due to the haze hazard.

Yeah, it's a great haze now and we as Taylor's students are not even permitted a half-day break, let alone a full day. I hope this kind of apathy will end soon.

[aim]

went to talked to the sam director just now (taylors)
their reason for not cancelling the class was every classroom have its own air cond. instead of getting a postive answer, i got a sandwiches and a can drink. hue hue..

it is getting worse now in subang.. n if its true from the news that this haze will continue to sometime in october, this would definitely affect students' health. wat can we do ?? buy mask like everyone else did ? they dint include that in my allowance~! waahh

[iQing]

Bah.
Last time during Chinese New Year I laughed at the announcement saying that the haze will last for a long time.

My prediction was right when the haze was gone after it rained days later.
Looks like Malaysians trust this kind of announcement too much.


KL :

http://www.jeffooi.com/archives/KL_via_google_earth.jpg

[topdog]

govt has decided to reveal the Air Pollution Index for the first time since 1997.

according to a malaysiakini latest report:
Chua also revealed that the API for Port Klang was 410, Shah Alam 316 and Kuala Selangor 327. These were classified as ?hazardous? levels.

The reading for Kuala Lumpur stood at 181.

here's what the numbers mean:
* 0 - 50 - Good
* 51 - 100 - Moderate
* 101 - 200 - Unhealthy
* 201 - 300 - Very unhealthy
* >300 - Hazardous

source:jabatan alam sekitar (http://www.doe.gov.my/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=59&Itemid=64&lang=en)

ganyang indonesia?

[__earth]

w00t! it's starting to rain in KL!

After the haze is clear, let's a battalion towards Sumatra.

and I couldn't believe KL is 181 - I can't see shit and 181 sounds like too low. Hell, at 3pm, it feels like 7 because it's so dark and brownish. I wonder how's 400 feels like, not!

[kevinkhoo1986]

how come we don't even get a single drop of rain in Klang....Cough, cough...... Here is the latest news...

Port Klang air quality at hazardous level

PETALING JAYA: The Air Pollutant Index (API) hit 410 in the Port Klang as at noon Wednesday.

API levels in several areas in Selangor and the Federal Territory at noon are as follows:

# Kuala Lumpur - 181
# Petaling Jaya - 204
# Kuala Selangor - 327
# Shah Alam - 316
# Putrajaya - 224.

The API system as adopted in Malaysia categorises air quality as hazardous to health when the index exceeds 300, according to the Department of Environment website.

The worst hit part is at KLANG..... i could sense that i am going to get sick very soon... Hopefully tomorrow will be school holiday.

[__earth]

crazy. I don't think 181 is the true reading for KL.

Anyway, I scanned PPS just now and hell, hailstorm hitting part of Klang Valley.

[iQing]

The government is not creating artificial rain?

It would be interesting to see if someone actually make the rain fall....

[topdog]

Anyway, I scanned PPS just now and hell, hailstorm hitting part of Klang Valley.
huuwhat?! hailstorm in malaysia!

maybe it was Ayah Pin's Assiduous Practice of his Awesome Powers in Articificial Production of rain to keep Air Pollution in check that resulted in the hail.

[iQing]

hehe...
just as predicted.
It would be fun to see how weather changes in Malaysia next February. :P

[chenchow]

The situation over at KL City Center is very bad. There have been rumours going around the API goes up to 460 at around 3-4pm.

The reading of 181 in KL was taken at noon, when the haze was not too serious, and hence, the lower reading.

Anyway, schools in entire KL would be closed on Thurs and Fri (reported by The Star).

[kevinkhoo1986]

Schools in KL, Klang and Kuala Selangor to shut Thursday, Friday (http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2005/8/10/nation/20050810200505&sec=nation)

News Update by Gavin Gomez of The Star


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[vseehua]

if that's that easy to do, then it's already done...

since newspaper reports said that the problem's caused by illeagal logging and plantation burning off their waste or things like that..with a country so corrupted as indon...maybe the officials are bribed so that no actions are to be taken...ok, that's speculation..but i have my own basis for that...

sigh..we should helpnby sending over our equiptments to douse out the fire, but just how much can we spare??

oh ya, all classes in intec was canceled for the rest of the week dua to the haze...but i just hope my DSH exam won't get delayed because of the haze...everything planned will be in ruins if like that :( it's much better now than this afternoon...

sigh, hv to spend the whole afternoon in the cc due to the really heavy haze..imagine having evening sky throughout the day and you'll get some idea...and put FOG inside the equation too... :twisted:

[da-hype]

I say.. We should form a coalition.. (Malaysia, Sing, Thai, Cambodia, and so on..) and BOMB indonesia. then we can take ALL their oil and other natural resources.. we'll be rich!! Yeaaaaaaaaa. ooh yeah i should get 50% or all profits, cause i thought of the idea 1st :p

lol jk

PS:/ srry just got up from a LOOONG sleep, after spending 10+ hours programming C++ last night.. :(

[kevinkhoo1986]

I say.. We should form a coalition.. (Malaysia, Sing, Thai, Cambodia, and so on..) and BOMB indonesia. then we can take ALL their oil and other natural resources.. we'll be rich!! Yeaaaaaaaaa. ooh yeah i should get 50% or all profits, cause i thought of the idea 1st :p

lol jk

PS:/ srry just got up from a LOOONG sleep, after spending 10+ hours programming C++ last night.. :(

I think we should ask all of our farmers to start burning their own farms as well once the wind direction change. Let them feel how irritating the haze is.... They will never feel the irritating haze because all of the haze have blown to our country. No wonder they tend to choose this moment to set fire on their farm. Does it mean every year during august, we have to suffer the haze problem? arghh....

[__earth]

My cat hates Indonesia

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mnoorsha/Graphics/hazeCatAnti.jpg

and there's a protest in front of the Indon embassy tomorrow. Let's go!

[da-hype]

I say.. We should form a coalition.. (Malaysia, Sing, Thai, Cambodia, and so on..) and BOMB indonesia. then we can take ALL their oil and other natural resources.. we'll be rich!! Yeaaaaaaaaa. ooh yeah i should get 50% or all profits, cause i thought of the idea 1st :p

lol jk

PS:/ srry just got up from a LOOONG sleep, after spending 10+ hours programming C++ last night.. :(

I think we should ask all of our farmers to start burning their own farms as well once the wind direction change. Let them feel how irritating the haze is.... They will never feel the irritating haze because all of the haze have blown to our country. No wonder they tend to choose this moment to set fire on their farm. Does it mean every year during august, we have to suffer the haze problem? arghh....


LOL.. signed

[kevinkhoo1986]

Hmm.... API level in Klang reach 534. Right now i could feel like in the heaven due to the haze....

[digimushu]

Haze reaches new highs...

<img src=http://www.jeffooi.com/archives/Haze_Mad's_husband.jpg>

...picture courtesy of screenshots.

[mita27]

It's very obvious that we need a medium size tsunami (not so devastating like the previous one ) to help Indonesia to fight the fire in sumatra.

The question is how do we create a tsunami wave that is no so devastating,after all , we have had one that killed 200K ppl not too long ago. the anwer would be to nuke the sea nearby Sumatra with a "medium size" Hydrogen bomb ,there is no doubt that some intelligent life form would be lost , but the fire would definitely be extinguished completely and efficiently with sea water.

Anyway, joking aside, When i went out working today , i had the feeling that somewhere in Malaysia got attacked by a nuke.

[vseehua]

Hmm.... API level in Klang reach 534. Right now i could feel like in the heaven due to the haze....

haha...minus the fresh air and plus some smoke from hell :twisted:

[DecentMerson]

quoted from BBC (www.bbc.co.uk):

There have been lots of accidents as vehicles can hardly see the road through the thick smog.

[vseehua]

haha..i doubt its THAT serious....unless you are still speeding along the road at 11 km per hour in the streets :twisted:

[__earth]

heh, just got back from the Indon embassy. DAP's protest is kinda sedated. oh well.

but, heh, there seemed like there were more police officers than there were protesters. :?:

[kevinkhoo1986]

Today seems much more better. At least i could see the sun shining on the ground. But i was told that this condition would not last for a long time because the hotspots still exist....

[__earth]

saw "cheak bei liau" in one of local editorials on you know what. What does that mean?

[topdog]

saw "cheak bei liau" in one of local editorials on you know what. What does that mean?
it's hokkien. literally "eat cannot finish".

[OperaGhost]

You mean this article?
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2005/8/12/nation/11748888&sec=nation

I don't quite understand this part:
It?s always around this time of the year when weather and the wind patterns are favourable that you see massive jungle clearing and illegal logging occurring in Sumatra and Kalimantan. Unfortunately, the winds blow the haze across the Straits of Malacca to Malaysia.
My understanding is that they only burn jungles at this time of the year because the wind will blow all the haze to neighboring countries and they themselves can still enjoy clean air?? Pardon my stupidity. :oops: But if that's true, then they're really selfish and inconsiderate. :evil:

[Zeroth]

pre-emptive strike on the illegal open burners!! muahhahz! lets help them clear the forest, using a bomb so that we clear them out too..:P Nah, joking.. hehe!

Is there and clood seeding done to control the haze? Maybe we could help Indo to seed their clouds as well do douse the fire. I think it's not really expensive relatively.

ASEAN should send a warning to Indonesia, keep it under control or face consequences, like being removed from ASEAN.

[vseehua]

i doubt that will ever happen too..hehe..but y not, kick it out of the east asian summit if they don't take prompt action to solve tge problem... :twisted:

[lotus]

You mean this article?
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2005/8/12/nation/11748888&sec=nation

I don't quite understand this part:
It?s always around this time of the year when weather and the wind patterns are favourable that you see massive jungle clearing and illegal logging occurring in Sumatra and Kalimantan. Unfortunately, the winds blow the haze across the Straits of Malacca to Malaysia.
My understanding is that they only burn jungles at this time of the year because the wind will blow all the haze to neighboring countries and they themselves can still enjoy clean air?? Pardon my stupidity. :oops: But if that's true, then they're really selfish and inconsiderate. :evil:
I suppose it means that it is a favourable time (to the farmers) for burning because May-Sept being the dry season in Sumatra and the dry wind will also ensure strong fires.

[gal_flower]

Does this mean that I won't be able to go back to Malaysia? I read that Subang airport and the RMAF airbase have stopped operations....I'm assuming KLIA is still operating but if the haze gets worse, it might stop its operations right...and even if KLIA is still operating, I'd be a little worried about my safety!
Haze, oh, haze, cepat cepat lari!

[Penny]

Now the haze has come to Penang.
Welcome to Penang :?

Have they (the Indons) actually stopped burning?

[PINKPIGGY]

Haze...haze..haze...is attacking penang drastically!!
We need fresh air! Indonesia, man!

BTW, do the Indonesians know that burning will cause pollution to air and we need fresh air to breathe? :lol: :evil: *cough*cough*A lot of my friends (including me) are affected by the haze! Haih!!

[__earth]

OMFG, Indonesian government is actually refusing help from Malaysia and ASEAN! (http://www.thestandard.com.hk/stdn/std/World/GH13Wd06.html)

[Zeroth]

maybe its some secret agenda. Kill us, then take over.. haha!

[Salvation]

saw "cheak bei liau" in one of local editorials on you know what. What does that mean?

He means that in indon, it cost around RM500 to produce 1 tonne of palm oil while market price is around RM1300 per tonne. It basically means that you have so much profits that you cannot eat finish. 8O 8O

[mita27]

Oh yesss .. clear sky, fresh air , just came back from an evening walk that i skipped for 3 days, how is thing going in Penang? :lol: :lol: :P

[iQing]

prayer helps. Listen to Pak Lah's advice.
I prayed more than twice for the haze to dissolve (using my own praying method :P )

[Ic3b3rg]

o_0... oh dear. my flight to Penang is today.

[__earth]

from san francisco to penang. heh, you would be having a hazy cultural shock

[vseehua]

prayer helps. Listen to Pak Lah's advice.
I prayed more than twice for the haze to dissolve (using my own praying method :P )

hmm, by the way the haze clears up after i joined a prayer session, yea, it works wonders...

hope the situation in penang gets better soon :)

[iQing]

it is the mind that work wonder.
our hidden potential is not yet developed, that's all.

prayer : Focus = will , imagination , emotion

[vseehua]

yea, i agree with you there..over the past few months i have been reading about the true power of the mind...

since we only utilize around 10% of our brain's capacity, then there are the other 90% of the power that's still untapped, well, that explains why some people have the extraordinary capability to do unsual things =)..

oops..out of topic here.hehe..kuala lumpur's having clear blue sky again..kinda appreciate it more after we lost it to the haze a few days ago... :)

[__earth]

I don't know about this prayer thing but before the call of prayers, the meteorological department had already told the press that the wind would change direction due to an storm or something in southern China and it's temporary.

The haze will come back as soon as that formation in China is through.

If this respite in KL is due to the prayers, I don't what the KLites are thinking by asking Penang and the other Malaysians to suffer the haze instead.

In a way, I'm kinda pissed off with the goverment. They are asking us to pray but refuse to apply regional pressure on Indonesia to sign the Agreement on Transboundary Haze Pollution. We need to attack the source, not dreaming of the chance some higher power to help us out in a temporary manner.

But I suppose, at least the Malaysian government is seeding the clouds.

And I suppose, we should do the rain dance too.

[lotus]

In a way, I'm kinda pissed off with the goverment. They are asking us to pray but refuse to apply regional pressure on Indonesia to sign the Agreement on Transboundary Haze Pollution. We need to attack the source, not dreaming of the chance some higher power to help us out in a temporary manner.

But I suppose, at least the Malaysian government is seeding the clouds.

And I suppose, we should do the rain dance too.
LOL....I concur with you and I think we should seriously start practising our steps for the rain dance. hahahaha..who knows.. Malaysia Bolehkan? :lol:

[vseehua]

be confident of yourself, malaysia memang boleh... :twisted:

[Irresistible]

The haze is over in Selangor state. Damn :x :x :x , I have bought too many mask from the 1st day, I heard the news said tht the haze will last to October (but apparently, its not true !!!)

[iQing]

The haze is over in Selangor state. Damn :x :x :x , I have bought too many mask from the 1st day, I heard the news said tht the haze will last to October (but apparently, its not true !!!)

I told you it is not accurate :P

[digimushu]

Don't worry, the haze will come back as long as the fires still rage in Indonesia.

[Panda]

Something to laugh...

Negaraku
Tanah tumpahnya jerebu
Rakyat hidup sesak dan layu
Rahmat bahagia, penjual topeng muka
Raja kita kena pakai juga
Rahmat bahagia, penjual topeng muka
Raja kita kena pakai juga.

:lol: :lol:

[mita27]

This month is a ghost month in Chinese Calendar ( yea damn sppoky) , there will be alot of open burning of paper money and paper dolls to worship the spirits, hopefully it wont add too much percentage of Co2 & dust to the existing haze.

[aftershox]

i was just wondering with all the haze now in the north states also ...
is there another more enviromental friendly way of clearing the padi fields instead of burning it everytime after they menuai the padi? provided that the new way is economical for them as well..coz i know that by burning the padi fields it's cheaper for them and faster as well..however all the smoke from burning the padi fields is definitely contributing to the haze i think

[vseehua]

yea, leave them around so that they turn into compost, or send them to specially built furnace, it's much cleaner if the paddy stalks are burnt there... :)