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weixiang 07-05-2011 02:39 PM

Malaysia negara Kristian?
 
PULAU PINANG 6 Mei - Ahli Parlimen Jelutong, Jeff Ooi menafikan dakwaan kononnya beliau menganjurkan satu majlis pertemuan paderi dari seluruh negara yang didakwa turut membincangkan agenda menjadikan Kristian sebagai agama rasmi Persekutuan sekali gus melantik Perdana Menteri dalam kalangan penganut agama itu.

Menurut wakil rakyat DAP itu, beliau hanya menghadiri majlis kesyukuran yang diadakan secara tertutup untuk paderi-paderi tersebut di sebuah hotel di Jalan Macalister di sini sebagai tetamu.

Majlis pertemuan paderi-paderi berkenaan dan ikrar menjadikan Kristian sebagai agama rasmi Persekutuan didedahkan oleh dua laman blog hari ini iaitu 'bigdog' di http://bigdogdotcom.wordpress.com/ menerusi entri bertajuk 'Making Christianity the official religion? dan blog Marahku di http://marahku.blogspot.com.

Jeff yang ditanya mengenai ikrar itu mendakwa, ketika majlis berlangsung, beliau sibuk 'melayan' iPad selain menjamu selera walaupun turut bertafakur semasa paderi-paderi itu berdoa.

"Bukankah berdoa itu suruhan tuhan. Apa yang saya tahu, 'bigdog' (penulis blog) tidak sebut nama saya, dia tidak tuduh saya. Kalau mahu tahu lebih lanjut, sila tanya polis Cawangan Khas dan dengar rakaman yang dibuat mereka," katanya melalui khidmat pesanan ringkas (SMS) kepada Utusan Malaysia di sini hari ini.

Difahamkan, majlis makan malam yang dihadiri lebih 100 paderi Kristian itu diadakan di sebuah hotel di sini semalam yang kemudiannya disusuli dengan beberapa konvensyen hari ini.

Malam ini pula akan diadakan satu majlis di Pusat Kristian (Katolik) Pulau Pinang di sini dan satu ceramah perdana pula dianjurkan esok. Pertemuan itu dikatakan dianjurkan setiap tahun.

Dalam majlis makan malam itu, seramai 35 orang paderi dikatakan berdiri dalam bulatan dan saling berpegangan tangan tanda bersetuju untuk menjadikan Malaysia sebagai sebuah negara Kristian dan mahu Perdana Menteri juga dalam kalangan penganut agama itu.

Sementara itu, tinjauan Utusan Malaysia di hotel yang terletak di Jalan Burmah mendapati persidangan sehari itu yang bermula pukul 8.30 pagi berlangsung di Bilik 2 dan 3, tingkat 7 hotel itu.

Kira-kira 10 meja dan kerusi disusun di luar bilik persidangan yang dikatakan diadakan setiap tahun dengan beberapa rahib dilihat berbual-bual sebelum masing-masing masuk ke dalam bilik persidangan.

Kenyataan Jeff itu bagaimanapun berbeza dengan laporan blog 'bigdog' yang mendakwa majlis itu dianjurkan oleh kawasan Parlimen DAP dipercayai Jelutong dan turut dihadiri oleh kira-kira 100 yang lain termasuk wakil rakyat parti itu dari Sarawak dan beberapa pekerja parti.

"Apa yang dilakukan DAP adalah sesuatu yang sangat berbahaya. DAP membawa strategi politik cauvinis mereka ke satu tahap perubahan dan sensitiviti yang sangat tinggi," dakwa blog berkenaan.

Blog tersebut menambah, sebagai satu komuniti minoriti, cita-cita DAP itu jelas membuktikan mereka cuba bertindak sebagai kaum majoriti.

"Ini merupakan lembaran baru dalam politik yang mana kaum minoriti memainkan peranan sebagai kaum majoriti di samping strategi cauvinis DAP menyemai politik kebencian. Sesuatu yang pasti ia bergerak pada landasan yang sangat berbahaya," dakwa blog itu.

Our country never short of idiots that keep blurting out provocative statements. And who else can do this better than Utusan Malaysia?

vampiric_guy_01 07-05-2011 08:59 PM

Re: Malaysia negara Kristian?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by weixiang (Post 365596)
PULAU PINANG 6 Mei - Ahli Parlimen Jelutong, Jeff Ooi menafikan dakwaan kononnya beliau menganjurkan satu majlis pertemuan paderi dari seluruh negara yang didakwa turut membincangkan agenda menjadikan Kristian sebagai agama rasmi Persekutuan sekali gus melantik Perdana Menteri dalam kalangan penganut agama itu.

Menurut wakil rakyat DAP itu, beliau hanya menghadiri majlis kesyukuran yang diadakan secara tertutup untuk paderi-paderi tersebut di sebuah hotel di Jalan Macalister di sini sebagai tetamu.

Majlis pertemuan paderi-paderi berkenaan dan ikrar menjadikan Kristian sebagai agama rasmi Persekutuan didedahkan oleh dua laman blog hari ini iaitu 'bigdog' di http://bigdogdotcom.wordpress.com/ menerusi entri bertajuk 'Making Christianity the official religion? dan blog Marahku di http://marahku.blogspot.com.

Jeff yang ditanya mengenai ikrar itu mendakwa, ketika majlis berlangsung, beliau sibuk 'melayan' iPad selain menjamu selera walaupun turut bertafakur semasa paderi-paderi itu berdoa.

"Bukankah berdoa itu suruhan tuhan. Apa yang saya tahu, 'bigdog' (penulis blog) tidak sebut nama saya, dia tidak tuduh saya. Kalau mahu tahu lebih lanjut, sila tanya polis Cawangan Khas dan dengar rakaman yang dibuat mereka," katanya melalui khidmat pesanan ringkas (SMS) kepada Utusan Malaysia di sini hari ini.

Difahamkan, majlis makan malam yang dihadiri lebih 100 paderi Kristian itu diadakan di sebuah hotel di sini semalam yang kemudiannya disusuli dengan beberapa konvensyen hari ini.

Malam ini pula akan diadakan satu majlis di Pusat Kristian (Katolik) Pulau Pinang di sini dan satu ceramah perdana pula dianjurkan esok. Pertemuan itu dikatakan dianjurkan setiap tahun.

Dalam majlis makan malam itu, seramai 35 orang paderi dikatakan berdiri dalam bulatan dan saling berpegangan tangan tanda bersetuju untuk menjadikan Malaysia sebagai sebuah negara Kristian dan mahu Perdana Menteri juga dalam kalangan penganut agama itu.

Sementara itu, tinjauan Utusan Malaysia di hotel yang terletak di Jalan Burmah mendapati persidangan sehari itu yang bermula pukul 8.30 pagi berlangsung di Bilik 2 dan 3, tingkat 7 hotel itu.

Kira-kira 10 meja dan kerusi disusun di luar bilik persidangan yang dikatakan diadakan setiap tahun dengan beberapa rahib dilihat berbual-bual sebelum masing-masing masuk ke dalam bilik persidangan.

Kenyataan Jeff itu bagaimanapun berbeza dengan laporan blog 'bigdog' yang mendakwa majlis itu dianjurkan oleh kawasan Parlimen DAP dipercayai Jelutong dan turut dihadiri oleh kira-kira 100 yang lain termasuk wakil rakyat parti itu dari Sarawak dan beberapa pekerja parti.

"Apa yang dilakukan DAP adalah sesuatu yang sangat berbahaya. DAP membawa strategi politik cauvinis mereka ke satu tahap perubahan dan sensitiviti yang sangat tinggi," dakwa blog berkenaan.

Blog tersebut menambah, sebagai satu komuniti minoriti, cita-cita DAP itu jelas membuktikan mereka cuba bertindak sebagai kaum majoriti.

"Ini merupakan lembaran baru dalam politik yang mana kaum minoriti memainkan peranan sebagai kaum majoriti di samping strategi cauvinis DAP menyemai politik kebencian. Sesuatu yang pasti ia bergerak pada landasan yang sangat berbahaya," dakwa blog itu.

Our country never short of idiots that keep blurting out provocative statements. And who else can do this better than Utusan Malaysia?



Was gonna be mad at you when i read the above and the thread tittle without seeing your comment...... so its from Utusan Malaysia..... that's a really 'sohai' thing to publish .. they don't have news alrdy is it??? then should close down not creating issues

Dominic 07-05-2011 09:06 PM

Re: Malaysia negara Kristian?
 
Quote:

?Everlasting peace? only under Malay rule, says Perkasa

UPDATED @ 06:19:39 PM 07-05-2011By Shazwan Mustafa Kamal May 07, 2011

KUALA LUMPUR, May 7 ? Malaysia can only have peace and political stability under a Malay-majority government, right-wing group Perkasa declared today.

Perkasa president Datuk Ibrahim Ali told non-Malays today to stop questioning Malay rights, saying it would only make the country?s dominant majority threatened.

?Public must understand the Malays must take the lead in order to ensure everlasting peace in Malaysia.

?If non-Malays irrespective of their political background keep questioning our rights, the Malays feel threatened. Why should the Malays feel unsafe on their own soil?? he said in a text message to The Malaysian Insider today.

Ibrahim (left) pointed out while the economic situation of the Malays was currently weak, they at least held their own politically.

He predicted instability should Malays be stripped of their political positions.

?When both (economics and politics) are weak they (non-Malays) will despise us,? he said.

The Pasir Mas MP reminded the non-Malays what ?they have and enjoy today? was because of the Malay community?s ?tolerance and acceptance? towards the needs and wants of other races.

He said that if non-Malays kept taking what rightfully belonged to the Malays, eventually the Malays would end up with nothing.

?They cannot take (it) all because we have nothing left. Now they are demanding,? he said.

Ibrahim added that the only way for a Malay-majority rule in Putrajaya was by voting Barisan Nasional (BN).

?If PKR or PAS rules they will continue to demand even more.

?Our mission is to unite the Malays of all political and social backgrounds without ignoring the needs of the Chinese and Indians,? said the independent MP.

Utusan Malaysia had carried out a front-page article today titled ?Malaysia, a Christian country?? (Malaysia, negara Kristian?), based entirely on blog postings by several pro-Umno bloggers.

The bloggers had charged the DAP with sedition for trying to change the country?s laws to enable a Christian to be prime minister, pointing to a grainy photograph showing what they described to be a secret pact between the DAP and pastors at a hotel in Penang on Wednesday.

The federal constitution does not expressly specify race or religious requirements for the position of prime minister. Article 43(2)(a) of the constitution states only that the Yang di-Pertuan Agong shall appoint as PM a member of Parliament who in his judgment is likely to command the confidence of the majority of the Dewan Rakyat.

In a posting headlined ?Agong under threat? DAP wants to make Christianity the official religion of Malaysia?? blogger Marahku (marahku.blogspot.com) accused the DAP of trying to amend the federal constitution to allow a Christian to become prime minister.

?The whole point of changing the official religion is to allow a Christian to become prime minister of this country,? the blogger said.

On bigdogdotcom.wordpress.com, the writer claimed to have received a message that the DAP?s Jeff Ooi had organised a dinner for pastors from Sarawak and overseas at the Red Rock Hotel in Jalan Macalister, Penang.

?Among the activities that night included the 35 pastors taking a group oath. They formed a circle and touched each other?s shoulder and vowed in English to make Christianity the official religion of Malaysia and put a Christian prime minister in office,? the anonymous writer said in his blog under the headline ?Making Christianity the official religion??

He also pointed to the same grainy picture he posted at the top of his blog page, which he had captioned ?Partying pastors or pastors doing the party do and vow to have a Christian as Malaysian prime minister?.

The blogger further alleged that the DAP had labelled the ruling Barisan Nasional (BN) coalition as an ?anti-Christ agent? in the run-up to polls in Sarawak, showing the opposition party was ?openly against BN on religious grounds and they are now making it their clarion call, their rabble rousing horn?.

The blogger said it was a seditious and religiously-divisive statement that was never investigated by the police ?or at least they did not tell us about any investigations on the matter?.

He called on the authorities to investigate the allegations for sedition, warning that if the authorities failed in their duty the country may be ?shattered again?.

The National Evangelical Christian Fellowship (NECF), together with partners Global Day of Prayer, Marketplace Penang and Penang Pastors Fellowship, said the claims against their community were lies, and has already denied the bloggers? allegations last night.

Similarly, Ooi said the dinner had been organised by the Christian pastors, in recognition of the DAP team who had visited them while in Sarawak for the state election and that the prayer sessions ? one before dinner and one at the end ? were a usual part of their worship, and not a pledge as alleged.

?To achieve their means they are willing to pressure and anger Muslims, who make up the majority of the country?s citizens... if one day Muslims lose their patience, there will be tension in the country,? said Perkasa secretary-general Syed Hassan Syed Ali.

He told The Malaysian Insider that the Malay rights group had lodged a police report regarding the matter in several states.

?Perkasa does not want it to come to that level... that is why Perkasa lodged police reports... to show how serious Perkasa is,? Syed Hassan said.
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/m...-says-perkasa/

weixiang 07-05-2011 09:08 PM

Re: Malaysia negara Kristian?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vampiric_guy_01 (Post 365829)
Was gonna be mad at you when i read the above and the thread tittle without seeing your comment...... so its from Utusan Malaysia..... that's a really 'sohai' thing to publish .. they don't have news alrdy is it??? then should close down not creating issues

Haha. Perhaps i should come out with a better title. But ya, it's so typical of them. Resorting to religions in order to secure votes for their 'master'. :(

Cactus 07-05-2011 09:08 PM

Re: Malaysia negara Kristian?
 
And this is news?!

thebenjybenjy 07-05-2011 10:26 PM

Re: Malaysia negara Kristian?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cactus (Post 365834)
And this is news?!

Exactly. What Utusan say is totally and absolutely BASELESS. DAP making a pact with christian leaders? Oh come on, please dont be silly.

AnnSecret 07-05-2011 10:37 PM

Re: Malaysia negara Kristian?
 
Come on guys, let's not be too quick to judge. I know some of us may have different views on different political parties. But let's remember that when it comes to matter of politics we don't really know what's going on.

What the newspaper, blogs, TV reports may differ from actual facts. The politicians may actually be playing games with us right now.

Who knows.

weixiang 07-05-2011 11:13 PM

Re: Malaysia negara Kristian?
 
Don't forget the fact that Utusan Malaysia makes that as their headline on their front page based on the writings in a few blogs. Since when blogs serve as reliable source of information for mainstream media?

youngyew 08-05-2011 06:30 AM

Re: Malaysia negara Kristian?
 
This is nonsense simply based on the fact that Christianity is not even the dominant religion at this moment in the Chinese population.

bush 08-05-2011 07:24 AM

Re: Malaysia negara Kristian?
 
sedition is sedition. There are people out there who wouldn't have qualms to tear this country apart if it means it could further their goals.

I think we should have capital punishment for pengkhianat negara.........


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