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  #41 Old 25-03-2013 Default Re: 2012 SPM students - interested in medicine

On the same boat here. If you are non-bumi you can do asasi at UPNM or UPM, but then again UPM do not have asasi sains , only asasi pertanian.
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  #42 Old 27-03-2013 Default Attachment at GH

Read one of the recommendation for hopeful medical students is to do attachment at hospitals (GH?). How do 1 apply to do the attachment? Hope someone can enlighten me on that. Thanks.
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  #43 Old 27-03-2013 Default Re: Attachment at GH

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Read one of the recommendation for hopeful medical students is to do attachment at hospitals (GH?). How do 1 apply to do the attachment? Hope someone can enlighten me on that. Thanks.
This is often referred to as "shadowing". You will need contacts from that particular GH. Do bear in mind, with so many HOs following the MO and/or specialist, the presence of an enthusiastic med student wannabe may not be welcomed.
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  #44 Old 27-03-2013 Default Re: 2012 SPM students - interested in medicine

You actually don't need contacts at a GH - be polite, and show up to the reception (for hospital administration), explain what you want (preferbably also with a introduction letter about yourself + what you would like to do). If the guys at the reception look lost, ask to be directed to the training/junior doctors unit, they should be more used to students.
If you get refused, so be it, but at least you tried!
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  #45 Old 27-03-2013 Default Re: 2012 SPM students - interested in medicine

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You actually don't need contacts at a GH - be polite, and show up to the reception (for hospital administration), explain what you want (preferbably also with a introduction letter about yourself + what you would like to do). If the guys at the reception look lost, ask to be directed to the training/junior doctors unit, they should be more used to students.
If you get refused, so be it, but at least you tried!
Reception will very likely ask, "wad yang mana?", which will be anytime better than "tak tau lah".
Are you working locally or abroad?
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  #46 Old 28-03-2013 Default Re: 2012 SPM students - interested in medicine

abroad... studying not working!

(but ive arranged a couple of electives / attachments at GHs by the "walk-in" method )
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  #47 Old 29-03-2013 Default Re: 2012 SPM students - interested in medicine

Guys, there're lots of useful info about medical studies at MMR.

http://medicine.com.my/wp/

Hopefully it would help to answer most of your questions.
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  #48 Old 29-03-2013 Default Re: 2012 SPM students - interested in medicine

I'm a 2012 SPM student.I got 9A+1A for spm, and i want to pursue medicine in university.

i'm sure i'm doing it for the right reasons.my family's often quoted the cons we all know of being a doctor: long hours,tragic life,small pay,being on-call and having to deal with blood... but all this, while leaving me with a grimace of acknowledgement,doesn't scare me, because if i can fulfill my reason for doing med in the first place(i need not mention it lest this turns into a sob-inducing post) then i'm sure i can be happy.of course, to fulfill such wishes means that i have to specialise in surgery and oncology,so...

but what did actually scare me off was dr.pagalavan's entry on the job prospects of doctors especially in malaysia.i can handle lots of challenges in the path to BE a doctor, but to handle all of it and end up being denied to work as one might be the breaking point.imagine studying a min of 5 years and end up with no job because too many people studied the same thing?!

what are everyone's thoughts on this?is it valid enough a worry that i should seriously reconsider medicine? i've spent the past year carefully considering career choices and know that this is the first and foremost thing i want go do, even if it's not the only thing(which is wise,i guess?) I'm applying for scholarships like mara and bnm,but up till i read this i thought it'd be med for sure if i got it. now i'm confused and looking in other directions when i know in my heart i want to do medicine, but am afraid of job prospects. any advice?http://http://pagalavan.com/2013/03/...y-soon-part-5/

sorry, the link doesn't work.here:

http://pagalavan.com/2013/03/07/for-...y-soon-part-5/

just copy and paste in your browser?

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  #49 Old 29-03-2013 Default Re: 2012 SPM students - interested in medicine

Aren't you glad you read the blog? Dr Pagavalan's blog is probably the only blog highlighting the going-ons in the medical landscape. You're bright, so you can do the maths. With 36 medical schools in the country, and save for a handful, all are taking in students who otherwise will never make it into proper medical schools in the UK/Aus. To make matters worse, it does seem that failure rates are nearly non-existent, so in a couple of years, the country's medical schools will be churning out 6000 (or 8000?) medical graduates PER year.
Without training after medical school, a medical graduate is pretty much useless.
Even if you manage to get into a med school in the UK or Australia, do NOT harbour hopes of staying on to do your internships, as it is now becoming increasingly difficult to place international students for internships.
So bottomline, no internships/housemanship, whether or not you study abroad or locally.
Specialisation? Have you read the rest of the blog's posts? I strongly encourage you to do so.
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  #50 Old 30-03-2013 Default Re: 2012 SPM students - interested in medicine

I think its been said before, competent doctors should have little trouble at all getting a job - but you have to be competent at what you're doing!

To start with, get into an accredited university (minimum!)
Its obviously better to do your research and get into a course that is "respectable" amongst the doctors here. Also, if at all possible, be at a university with a proper teaching hospital (ie, students in clinical years at the hospital are accepted and EXPECTED to be part of the team including clerking, examining patients, presenting to MO/Specialists, doing minor procedures like bloods and lines etc).

Realize that medicine is a journey of life-long education - expect to be studying and sitting exams anywhere from 6-15 years AFTER final year med studentship, and even having finished all the exams there is a need to spend a good few hours every week on education, both your own and your colleagues (this starts at med school; if an incompetent student is allowed to be an incompetent doctor, you both end up worse off because someone will have to clean up the messes) - keeping up with medical literature at the very least, learning new skills/methods of doing things from others and also remembering to teach.

Remember that the aim of medical school training is to produce good junior doctors, not specialists - so congrats that you already know which specialty you want to go in, but dont be discouraged to find out that the path may not be immediately obvious.

Also, outside of clinical work there are non-clinical options, and that again, if you are a competent doctor graduating from a reputable medical school there would be job opportunities outside clinical medicine.

SO tl;dr, good doctors are likely still to be needed, so jobs will be available, but make darn well sure you are good.
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