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  #101 Old 29-03-2010 Default Re: Forming Every Little Thing About Medicine

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hi, i want to ask what is the difference between a pharmacist and a physician ?
what do we call a chinese traditional practitioner in english? do pharmacist learn bout herbs in pharmacy?thanks in advance.^^
A pharmacist is someone who sells medication and provides professional advice regarding medication.

A physician is an "advanced" specialist doctor who deals with non-surgical stuff. Examples of physician include a cardiologist (heart specialist), endocrinologist (hormone specialist), kidney specialist etc.

It's called Chinese Medicine practitioner.

Pharmacists don't really learn a lot about herbs, but they do need to have some knowledge about them and how they might interact with the usual Western medicine drugs.
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  #102 Old 29-03-2010 Default Re: Forming Every Little Thing About Medicine

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A pharmacist is someone who sells medication and provides professional advice regarding medication.

A physician is an "advanced" specialist doctor who deals with non-surgical stuff. Examples of physician include a cardiologist (heart specialist), endocrinologist (hormone specialist), kidney specialist etc.

It's called Chinese Medicine practitioner.

Pharmacists don't really learn a lot about herbs, but they do need to have some knowledge about them and how they might interact with the usual Western medicine drugs.
ok i can understand bout pharmacist ,but if physician is professional in certain field why they do not perform surgery cause for sure they are more expert, right?or they are in the surgical room giving instructions?
Is there any possibilities that a pharmacist apply the knowledge about herbs into western medicine and invent new drugs?
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ok i can understand bout pharmacist ,but if physician is professional in certain field why they do not perform surgery cause for sure they are more expert, right?or they are in the surgical room giving instructions?
Is there any possibilities that a pharmacist apply the knowledge about herbs into western medicine and invent new drugs?
Surgery is hard, to become a full-fledged surgeon someone needs to train for additional 8-10 years after they finish their basic 5/6 year medical course. On the other hand, to become a physician it's some 7 years after the medical course. Since our life, time, ability and possibly attention span is limited, in most cases it's just impractical to have someone both operate on and see patients.

If you are a pharmacist who sells drugs then you won't have that much opportunity to deal with invention of new drugs. If you are interested in the latter then you will want to go into pharmaceutical research rather than pharmacy itself. Similarly for medicine, if you are into groundbreaking research, quite often you will have to be a full time biomedical researcher who works in research laboratory rather than a doctor yourself. In the modern era, quite often the practitioner and the inventor are different people.
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Surgery is hard, to become a full-fledged surgeon someone needs to train for additional 8-10 years after they finish their basic 5/6 year medical course. On the other hand, to become a physician it's some 7 years after the medical course. Since our life, time, ability and possibly attention span is limited, in most cases it's just impractical to have someone both operate on and see patients.

If you are a pharmacist who sells drugs then you won't have that much opportunity to deal with invention of new drugs. If you are interested in the latter then you will want to go into pharmaceutical research rather than pharmacy itself. Similarly for medicine, if you are into groundbreaking research, quite often you will have to be a full time biomedical researcher who works in research laboratory rather than a doctor yourself. In the modern era, quite often the practitioner and the inventor are different people.
Ok,i understand.Btw, i choose the latter, i want to involve more in R&D.What about combining both the miracle from chinese herb and western medicine to invent some sort of drugs? though may take years.But, i think in between a pharmacist also can do research in private medicine manufacturer company plus more money for research.
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  #105 Old 06-03-2011 Default Which Part of Medicine is not Covered by Biology (undergraduate level and beyond)?

Hello, I'm a STPM student currently studying Biology, and i consider medicine as one of my career choices.

Every now and then, I hear people telling others that medicine is VERY different from what we learn in Biology. Granted. 1.5 years of STPM is too short to cover the basics of EVERY field, e.g. physiology, biochemistry, anatomy, genetics.

However, people keep saying that "to study medicine you don't really need biology". Now how is this so?

Can anybody give a CONCRETE example of how medical studies is different from Biology/Biomedical science/Biochemistry... per se?
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  #106 Old 07-03-2011 Default Re: Forming Every Little Thing About Medicine

Well, having studied A levels biology (but not STPM), and then went on to do medicine...

Biology/Biochemistry (in what i learnt from A levels, anyway) deals very much with cellular and molecular levels - how cells are put together, how they divide, what metabolic pathways are involved, how DNA works etc. It's dealing with "life" on a much smaller scale, in general, compared to what we see in medicine.

Medicine, as I'm learning it, takes a "systems" approach - so we start of by, say, learning that we have a heart; where it is; that it has 4 chambers ... right down to some basic understanding of how it contracts (due to release of Ca triggering actin-myosin interaction). Yes we do learn about the smaller scale, but we not need to know it in as much detail as a Biochemisty graduate, but on the flip side we need to see things right up to the population / global level and look at, say, disease trends.

(I din't know exactly where my spleen, appendix or liver was located until uni.... if you want that sort of example)
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  #107 Old 08-03-2011 Default Re: Which Part of Medicine is not Covered by Biology (undergraduate level and beyond)

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Hello, I'm a STPM student currently studying Biology, and i consider medicine as one of my career choices.

Every now and then, I hear people telling others that medicine is VERY different from what we learn in Biology. Granted. 1.5 years of STPM is too short to cover the basics of EVERY field, e.g. physiology, biochemistry, anatomy, genetics.

However, people keep saying that "to study medicine you don't really need biology". Now how is this so?

Can anybody give a CONCRETE example of how medical studies is different from Biology/Biomedical science/Biochemistry... per se?
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I concur that high school Biology is relevant to medicine. However, the relevance only goes as far as the first year or two when you are doing microbiology, basic physiology and probably embryology (do you learn this in A-level Biology by the way). Outside these subjects, medicine does not quite bear any semblance to biology.

I would say that while biology may serve as an indicator of one's aptitude in studying medicine, in that it entails a similar set of skills e.g. memorisation of details, it shouldn't be seen as the "pre-medicine subject" which seem to be the widely held perception amongst Malaysians and Malaysian universities. There are so many people who think that they are not cut out to do medicine just because they don't like to learn all about biodiversity, chlorophyll and cotyledons, and some may even give up the path entirely just because of the unnecessary roadblock in this subject requirement. I believe that such a misconception is as misguided as the belief that people who can't bear a needle injection or the sight of blood can never be a doctor. It's just not right.
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Yup actually they have a good reason to. Biology is really not that "useful" in medicine. To give you an overview, basically some thing like 20% of what you did in all your biology subject might be related to medicine, but that makes up something like < 0.1% of what you will do in medicine. The other 99.9% are all new stuff, so whether you have done biology or not is not quite directly related to your aptitude in the medical course.
Will write more when I have time if you need more in-depth examples.
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