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  #11 Old 22-12-2010 Default Re: International Canadian Pre-university (ICPU) Questions

Without a doubt, CPU is a recognised qualification. Despite that, it still doesn't make sense for Malaysians to do it unless one wants to go to Canada.

Firstly, unlike the A-levels or the IB which is offered in most places in the world, the CPU is offered only in Ontario within Canada and as far as we know, Taylor's and Sunway Malaysia. I am not sure if CPU is offered elsewhere in the world because frankly, the commercialisation of education in Malaysia is probably one of the most if not the most sophisticated in the world.

Now imagine that you are an Australian, who somehow took the CPU while you were in high school in say Sydney, then you decide to apply to a British university. This is exactly what you are when you are a Malaysian who does CPU to go to the UK. While it will not necessarily affect your chances of admission for non-critical courses, one rather not do it because one might have to explain this strangeness in one's CV when one applies for a job. Further, admission tutors might find it weird too.

Since you mentioned law in the UK, IIRC, The Malaysian Bar does not recognise CPU as a pre-u certification. Don't say you will work in the UK upon graduation because frankly, you cannot do so in these times. Your LLB will be worthless in Malaysia. So think about it before doing CPU.
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  #12 Old 22-12-2010 Default Re: International Canadian Pre-university (ICPU) Questions

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You went for the CPU talk - presumably on Friday? I gave two presentations regarding my CPU experience on Saturday and Sunday, don't think I saw you there on both days.
I went on Sunday I think I know who you are, you were the guy (wearing black if I'm not mistaken) who went on stage and gave a short speech right? I have NS, I'm in the 2nd or 3rd batch. I'm ignoring that fact and differing till.. whenever.

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Without a doubt, CPU is a recognised qualification. Despite that, it still doesn't make sense for Malaysians to do it unless one wants to go to Canada.

Firstly, unlike the A-levels or the IB which is offered in most places in the world, the CPU is offered only in Ontario within Canada and as far as we know, Taylor's and Sunway Malaysia. I am not sure if CPU is offered elsewhere in the world because frankly, the commercialisation of education in Malaysia is probably one of the most if not the most sophisticated in the world.

Now imagine that you are an Australian, who somehow took the CPU while you were in high school in say Sydney, then you decide to apply to a British university. This is exactly what you are when you are a Malaysian who does CPU to go to the UK. While it will not necessarily affect your chances of admission for non-critical courses, one rather not do it because one might have to explain this strangeness in one's CV when one applies for a job. Further, admission tutors might find it weird too.

Since you mentioned law in the UK, IIRC, The Malaysian Bar does not recognise CPU as a pre-u certification. Don't say you will work in the UK upon graduation because frankly, you cannot do so in these times. Your LLB will be worthless in Malaysia. So think about it before doing CPU.
Yes, I was (still am) worried about the chances of my CPU qualification being recognized or not in Malaysia. I'm quite sure now that I'll be pursuing a degree in law and it does makes sense to go for A-Levels instead. Thank you, I will look into it

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  #13 Old 22-12-2010 Default Re: International Canadian Pre-university (ICPU) Questions

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Without a doubt, CPU is a recognised qualification. Despite that, it still doesn't make sense for Malaysians to do it unless one wants to go to Canada.

Firstly, unlike the A-levels or the IB which is offered in most places in the world, the CPU is offered only in Ontario within Canada and as far as we know, Taylor's and Sunway Malaysia. I am not sure if CPU is offered elsewhere in the world because frankly, the commercialisation of education in Malaysia is probably one of the most if not the most sophisticated in the world.

Now imagine that you are an Australian, who somehow took the CPU while you were in high school in say Sydney, then you decide to apply to a British university. This is exactly what you are when you are a Malaysian who does CPU to go to the UK. While it will not necessarily affect your chances of admission for non-critical courses, one rather not do it because one might have to explain this strangeness in one's CV when one applies for a job. Further, admission tutors might find it weird too.

Since you mentioned law in the UK, IIRC, The Malaysian Bar does not recognise CPU as a pre-u certification. Don't say you will work in the UK upon graduation because frankly, you cannot do so in these times. Your LLB will be worthless in Malaysia. So think about it before doing CPU.
Thanks for pointing that out.

Yes, should you consider doing Law in UK AND practising in Malaysia [correct me if I am mistaken?], there are quite some complications as mentioned by Bush in his post. So A levels might be a better choice if you are planning to pursue a Law career/UK Law degree. But I would stress that CPU is much more of a viable option in the case of changing courses.

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I went on Sunday I think I know who you are, you were the guy (wearing black if I'm not mistaken) who went on stage and gave a short speech right? I have NS, I'm in the 2nd or 3rd batch. I'm ignoring that fact and differing till.. whenever.
I see. I sounded rather nervous on stage didn't I? XD
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But I would stress that CPU is much more of a viable option in the case of changing courses.

I see. I sounded rather nervous on stage didn't I? XD
What do you mean by changing courses? Haha, you seemed shaky at first but after that you were good! I mean, I would recoil in horror if I were to be asked to come on stage and speak to strangers but that takes practice I suppose
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What do you mean by changing courses? Haha, you seemed shaky at first but after that you were good! I mean, I would recoil in horror if I were to be asked to come on stage and speak to strangers but that takes practice I suppose
Thanks for the feedback Lots of room for improvement when it comes to my public speaking skills.

No, I mean changing course as in changing any major that you originally intend to pursue in university.
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Thanks for the feedback Lots of room for improvement when it comes to my public speaking skills.

No, I mean changing course as in changing any major that you originally intend to pursue in university.
Oh alright! By the way, I'm required to do extremely well THROUGHOUT the program right? Meaning, if I don't do well in something, it will affect my overall percentage? Is 90% and above attainable because apparently that's what you need for scholarships. What does coursework mean anyway, like presentations and speeches? Sorry for my never ending questions, you're the only CPU student around here who knows and I just wanna make the right choice, don't wanna regret it
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Oh alright! By the way, I'm required to do extremely well THROUGHOUT the program right? Meaning, if I don't do well in something, it will affect my overall percentage? Is 90% and above attainable because apparently that's what you need for scholarships. What does coursework mean anyway, like presentations and speeches? Sorry for my never ending questions, you're the only CPU student around here who knows and I just wanna make the right choice, don't wanna regret it
90% and above is definitely attainable if you work hard for it. Keep in mind that CPU is a challenging course, but with the guidance of the lecturers, scoring in CPU should not be a problem. I have read your blog and I can see that you are an intelligent, thoughtful person - so no worries regarding performing at a high standard AND enjoying CPU life.

Your results will be affected by the most recent and consistent performance - which means 1. It is all about performance consistency throughout the semester 2. You are expected to gradually improve throughout the semester. You will have time to sharpen whatever skills you are lacking as you learn from day to day, and apply such skills in coursework.

Coursework basically includes presentations, group projects, essays, discussions, laboratory experiments+reports and even conferences. This varies from subject to subject. More importantly, you will NOT be taught - much less expected - to regurgitate textbook information, for that is not the teaching style of our lecturers. You are expected however, to talk/discuss/argue a lot in class [an evident understatement], a central part of the interactive learning process. On a general level, coursework will be accessed in four categories: Knowledge/Understanding,Thinking/Inquiry, Communication, and Application/Making Connections.

Keep the questions coming I am more than glad to answer if I can.

That said, you are the kind of person who will definitely fit into the CPU system in no time - with your intellectual curiosity and unique take on life.
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90% and above is definitely attainable if you work hard for it. Keep in mind that CPU is a challenging course, but with the guidance of the lecturers, scoring in CPU should not be a problem. I have read your blog and I can see that you are an intelligent, thoughtful person - so no worries regarding performing at a high standard AND enjoying CPU life.

Your results will be affected by the most recent and consistent performance - which means 1. It is all about performance consistency throughout the semester 2. You are expected to gradually improve throughout the semester. You will have time to sharpen whatever skills you are lacking as you learn from day to day, and apply such skills in coursework.

Coursework basically includes presentations, group projects, essays, discussions, laboratory experiments+reports and even conferences. This varies from subject to subject. More importantly, you will NOT be taught - much less expected - to regurgitate textbook information, for that is not the teaching style of our lecturers. You are expected however, to talk/discuss/argue a lot in class [an evident understatement], a central part of the interactive learning process. On a general level, coursework will be accessed in four categories: Knowledge/Understanding,Thinking/Inquiry, Communication, and Application/Making Connections.

Keep the questions coming I am more than glad to answer if I can.

That said, you are the kind of person who will definitely fit into the CPU system in no time - with your intellectual curiosity and unique take on life.
More like weird and all over the place. But thanks, that's so nice of you Consistency.. that's something I need to learn because usually, in high school I cram and end up with good results because that's an easy way to do things, I'm ashamed to say, in fact a lot of people do it! I get tongue tied a lot though, afraid that I can't keep up. Oh yeah, wanted to know, Kemai said you're a social science dude? So what subjects are you taking in CPU? Everything under Humanities? You're going to Canada after this?
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  #19 Old 23-12-2010 Default Re: International Canadian Pre-university (ICPU) Questions

Regardless of what you choose, please remember that university is a different ballgame. Taylor's and Sunway will sell you their CPU programs by saying coursework-exam balance, personal development, blah blah blah. That's just their marketing strategy. But when you actually do go to a (canadian) university, things are quite different. I took some economics(arts) and some courses had so high enrollment that the whole course was 30% midterm, 70% final. No assignments at all. In my final year 400 level econ course, there were only 50 people registered but it was still 30% midterm, 70% final. Regardless of what major you're going to do, you should expect allocations like these in most of your courses right up to your 3rd year.
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Regardless of what you choose, please remember that university is a different ballgame. Taylor's and Sunway will sell you their CPU programs by saying coursework-exam balance, personal development, blah blah blah. That's just their marketing strategy. But when you actually do go to a (canadian) university, things are quite different. I took some economics(arts) and some courses had so high enrollment that the whole course was 30% midterm, 70% final. No assignments at all. In my final year 400 level econ course, there were only 50 people registered but it was still 30% midterm, 70% final. Regardless of what major you're going to do, you should expect allocations like these in most of your courses right up to your 3rd year.
Indeed. University education is very much exam-based.
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