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  #31 Old 12-01-2010 Default Re: Malaysians and God(Allah)

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I have a feeling both christians and muslims just love these religious battles, as petty as it may be.

So fuck them. Let them kill each other, the quicker the better.
First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out-because I was not a communist
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out-because I was not a socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out-because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me-and there was no one left to speak out for me.

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  #32 Old 13-01-2010 Default Re: Malaysians and God(Allah)

I hope Malaysia can return to the peace we had, especially in the Borneo States, where we mixed freely and celebrated with each other in their festive days. We had friends of all races and religion and respect each other's customs and religion. If anyone wants a private moment, we respect you in whatever way you worship, and in public ocassions we had joy together, visited each other.
We did not see the need to impose our way onto others and we see sharing is a good thing. Hope the link below gives you some idea of how feelings are in East Malaysia on this issue, and gives you some back ground on this issue too.

http://themalaysianinsider.com/index...eo-states-say-

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  #33 Old 13-01-2010 Default Re: Malaysians and God(Allah)

Third we missed you! excellent trolling btw. it's been far too long.
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  #34 Old 13-01-2010 Default Re: Malaysians and God(Allah)

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I hope Malaysia can return to the peace we had, especially in the Borneo States, where we mixed freely and celebrated with each other in their festive days. We had friends of all races and religion and respect each other's customs and religion. If anyone wants a private moment, we respect you in whatever way you worship, and in public ocassions we had joy together, visited each other.
We did not see the need to impose our way onto others and we see sharing is a good thing. Hope the link below gives you some idea of how feelings are in East Malaysia on this issue, and gives you some back ground on this issue too.

http://themalaysianinsider.com/index...eo-states-say-

Best Wishes,
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Thanks for sharing this.
I always feel like East Malaysians are more insulated from the overall political happenings in the West, which is a good thing totally.

Just like in this case, I don't think the controversy will spill over East Malaysia so easily, nor do I think that it will affect the racial integration there. Maybe it's time the West Malaysians learn from the East Malaysians about tolerance.

And I do not think that Christians and/or Muslims actually love the religious battle. If you are a truly religious person, you won't like battles.
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  #35 Old 10-03-2010 Default Re: Malaysians and God(Allah)

The irony of this thread is that most of you were debating in English while the affected group (i wouldn't say 'affected' as if they were affected, more like targeted, but that was the correct term) are mostly Malay people who have no idea or give no business arguing with you people.

I'd say if you wanna get the message through, you gotta learn the language, sit on their level and argue in the way they would find comfortable to respond. Malays do not like feeling stupid, we have very low self esteem but we try to cover that up by being all bold and loud. I know many Malays would angrily disagree with me here, but well, that's Malay. Don't push your opinions into them, don't treat them like they're idiots. Just befriend them and talk.
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  #36 Old 13-03-2010 Default Re: Malaysians and God(Allah)

haha the irony is that we dont do that in sarawak, in fact i come from a saint school in kuching and our majority are malay muslims but we still have our prayer service every first friday of the month and prayer days and everything.

there's a crucifix in most halls and auditorium and a big cross on the school building. we chinese speak bahasa sarawak (the local malay dialect) and some malays speak hokkien (the local chinese dialect) and honestly we dont have religious or racial tensions..it's just unheard of

come on la as a christian myself, it is really high time we dont be suspicious of one another, embrace each other for we all believe in the same one God (yes us christians may believe in the trinity and catholics may have traditions and prayer to Mother Mary but it DOESN'T MATTER because essentially He is the same God that we all know and worship so why the fuss?)

why the spying and spitting and sacrilege? why the burning and arson? why's it not happening elsewhere in the world besides the obvious palestine and israel of course. The major acceptable religions in this world only comes down to 2 really- One Almighty God and without.

Judaism, Islamism, Orthodox, Catholicism, Christianity and it's many denominations are essentially from the same source and still is

Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Ancestral Worship, Confucianism, Taoism and related are all from the same source as well.

And they all teach the same thing= goodness in life promises rewards in the afterlife.
In fact there's a teaching that's reflected in all religions:

Do unto others what you want them to do unto you

We should not look on our differences but rather on our similarity
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  #37 Old 15-03-2010 Default Re: Malaysians and God(Allah)

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haha the irony is that we dont do that in sarawak, in fact i come from a saint school in kuching and our majority are malay muslims but we still have our prayer service every first friday of the month and prayer days and everything.

there's a crucifix in most halls and auditorium and a big cross on the school building. we chinese speak bahasa sarawak (the local malay dialect) and some malays speak hokkien (the local chinese dialect) and honestly we dont have religious or racial tensions..it's just unheard of

come on la as a christian myself, it is really high time we dont be suspicious of one another, embrace each other for we all believe in the same one God (yes us christians may believe in the trinity and catholics may have traditions and prayer to Mother Mary but it DOESN'T MATTER because essentially He is the same God that we all know and worship so why the fuss?)

why the spying and spitting and sacrilege? why the burning and arson? why's it not happening elsewhere in the world besides the obvious palestine and israel of course. The major acceptable religions in this world only comes down to 2 really- One Almighty God and without.

Judaism, Islamism, Orthodox, Catholicism, Christianity and it's many denominations are essentially from the same source and still is

Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Ancestral Worship, Confucianism, Taoism and related are all from the same source as well.

And they all teach the same thing= goodness in life promises rewards in the afterlife.
In fact there's a teaching that's reflected in all religions:

Do unto others what you want them to do unto you

We should not look on our differences but rather on our similarity
That is one of the many things that I envy of Sarawakian. Main of cause of the problem at the peninsula is the politicians who tried to play break and rule and try to champion issues related to race for power. That's why the community in the peninsula have a long way to go from achieving the so-called 1Malaysia.
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  #38 Old 15-03-2010 Default Re: Malaysians and God(Allah)

they put fear in our hearts so we will submit to their demands and ways. Fear brings submission and obedience. So lets not give them that. I think sabahans and swakians have the best of both worlds. they mix freely and they dont seem to care or police others religions, which is awesome.

why cant we hv that in the peninsular. i wonder.
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  #39 Old 15-03-2010 Default Re: Malaysians and God(Allah)

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That is one of the many things that I envy of Sarawakian. Main of cause of the problem at the peninsula is the politicians who tried to play break and rule and try to champion issues related to race for power. That's why the community in the peninsula have a long way to go from achieving the so-called 1Malaysia.
Agreed. My East Malaysian college mates told me they were very shocked with the racial polarisation and ethnocentrism here in the peninsula...
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  #40 Old 15-03-2010 Default Re: Malaysians and God(Allah)

I never been to srawk or sbh before. so i can't comment much about that. but if all of those are true, i giv a salute..

i think this issue comes up because of the politicians here at the penisular..they want to be the leaders so much even they willing to destroy the peace.. but somehow, i don't hv any prove to strengthens my opinions..
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